<p>bad karma...it can catch up to you</p>
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My friend is going to graduate soon from Sac State and waaay back when she originally applied, she made up like 5 EC's, since her GPA was 2.9. MY HS GPA is slightly lower, and I dont want to go to community college. I only did 1 club in HS... "</p>
<p>Her ECs probably didn't have anything to do with her acceptance. Most public universities pay little attention to ECs with the exception of varsity athletes in important sports.</p>
<p>In fact, the overwhelming majority of colleges in this country barely -- if at all - factor ECs into admission. The colleges that most do are the very top colleges because they get such an overabundance of students with sky high stats that the colleges can afford to pick and choose from those students to create an active campus that is well rounded in all meanings of the word including in terms of ECs.</p>
<p>By lying about your ECs, you raise your risk of being denied admission because of your lies.</p>
<p>Even with a 2.9 or below, and average or below average SATs, there are plenty of 4-year colleges that would be happy to admit you.</p>
<p>"Also-- I don't want to encourage making up ecs, but the idea that colleges share info on ec exageration is silly."</p>
<p>True. What's more likely is that the college may share info with the student's GC, who then may change their recommendations or will right recommendations to reflect the student's lack of integrity.</p>
<p>I'll judge - what a tool.</p>
<p>Here are the risks:
1. The school might call your counselor to check.
2. They may check some other way.
3. Some "friend" of yours may rat you out.
4. A counselor or teacher recommendation may mention that you only do one activity.
The potential benefits are slight. As the value of the false information increases, the likelihood of discovery also increases.
And you can even think of the moral side of this as a long-term risk: there is a really strong risk that even if you aren't discovered, that you will greatly regret having lied. You may punish yourself in the future if you do it.
It's not worth it.</p>
<p>Again, Sacramento State uses an eligibility index for admissions.</p>
<p>ECs are NOT considered. First-time</a> Freshman - OAR - Sac State</p>
<p>The OP can put down 1,000 ECs or ZERO ECs - it will not make any difference to his/her admission - and it did not have any impact on the "friend's" admission mentioned in the original post.</p>
<p>Sacramento State will not "check" ECs, because they do not consider ECs.</p>
<p>For the love of god, at people on here again screaming "morals" when the OP specifically asked to put those aside. Yes, not lying would be the "best" and "most moral" decision, but that's not what he/she was asking. Put those aside and let's not accuse the OP of being a future criminal and the like, if anything (I'm not even sure if someone said that or not, but whatever).</p>
<p>I'll just answer the question. It is probably "safe" to lie about EC's in trivial matters, like saying you were a member of a club (I mean, some schools like mine are so lax that you can technically be part of a club but not go to any meeting, thus spending 0 hours a year, but technically you're still in the club so it wouldn't be lying), embellishing your EC hours a bit, and etc probably won't get you caught.</p>
<p>Leadership positions, major awards, etc, probably not a good idea.</p>
<p>It's your choice. I personally wouldn't recommend it, but nowadays the line and degree of authenticity is so shaky that I wouldn't even know.</p>
<p>I'm not promoting it but I'm sure people have gotten away with it. They probably don't look into it that much.</p>
<p>Go ahead. I did and look where it got me lol</p>
<p>^^but what ECs did you lie about?????????</p>
<p>This is a contemptible thread.</p>
<p>Penn2013 that's not funny.</p>
<p>you shouldnt even go to college because you'll probably waste your money and end up being a janitor anyways. so, save yourself the trouble and go stand on a street corner. your mom will show you the ropes.</p>
<p>you're an a55wipe for doing this. you dont deserve to go to college. people work their a55 off trying to get in, and from the looks of your GPA, you didnt try in high school, and you would only do this because your SAT/ACT scores probably suck balls too.</p>
<p>don't lie to college admissions or yourself. in the end if u lie about ur extracurriculars and anything else u can lie about to make urself a better fit for a school... in the end u'll find out that u probably don't fit in there and u might get beat up and not make it through. i know plenty of people who have gone to the greatest lenghts posisble to get themselves into name-brand schools and once they got there they realized that they couldn't keep up because they lied about what kind of student and person they were... and it just is a recipe for disaster. make ur application true to urself and the right college will accept u and u will fit in there and find the most success u can</p>
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Penn2013 that's not funny.
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O'RLY? I was jk-ing duh if I actually did it I wouldnt be braging</p>
<p>actually, i know at least 10 people who lied about leadership in clubs...but from what i heard, it's safe to say you're in and involved in a club (don't say you organized a $100,000 fundraiser or something, and never say you're president)
so yeah, go ahead and do it; way too many high school students get away with a billion things. but i'd stop the practice after awhile.</p>
<p>"but from what i heard, it's safe to say you're in and involved in a club (don't say you organized a $100,000 fundraiser or something, and never say you're president)
so yeah, go ahead and do it"</p>
<p>The relatively few colleges that factor ECs into admission (and they tend to be places like HPYS, the most competitive in the country) aren't going to be impressed by memberships in clubs. They aren't even going to be impressed by presidencies unless the presidency were something like a statewide or national office.</p>
<p>They are impressed by what students accomplished in clubs, and that can be very hard to lie about because if you accomplished something large enough to impress a place like Harvard, it probably would be mentioned by your GC or you'll discuss it in your interview.</p>
<p>Trust me as a person who has caught students in lies while interviewing them, it's very difficult to get away with lying in person about activities you've participated in . Particularly you're being interviewed by a local alum, they are likely to be familiar with organizations. I caught someone lying about being very involved in an organization that I happened to regularly volunteer with and my son was the president of. When without telling her that my son was president of that organization, I casually asked her if she'd ever met my son, she said "no."</p>
<p>I never let her know about my affiliation with that organization, so she had no idea that I'd caught her in a lie.</p>
<p>And no, she didn't get in.</p>
<p>"They aren't even going to be impressed by presidencies unless the presidency were something like a statewide or national office."</p>
<p>and how many students have a statewide or national office for a club? </p>
<p>as for this kid, this is a state school, for god's sake. do whatever.</p>
<p>""They aren't even going to be impressed by presidencies unless the presidency were something like a statewide or national office."</p>
<p>There so many things wrong with that sentence I don't even know where to start. Well, I definitely agree with dashboard- lies or not, you will still get in. No sweat.</p>