<p>Since it is common for out-of state privates to give A LOT more aid, out-of state public is just asking for empty wallets - or am I wrong? Are there public schools that give a lot of aid?</p>
<p>There are certain OOS publics that offer a lot of merit aid. Also, cost is not always an issue for people.</p>
<p>I’m honestly assuming this because many of my friends who got into private colleges get a lot of aid (opposed to one who denied UCLA cause they only gave a few hundred dollars in aid,) and most private colleges consume OOS students.</p>
<p>The UC system relies on OOS students on full pay to provide additional funding; it’s no surprise that your friend got no money at UCLA. Some other schools, however, give money- Alabama comes to mind when it comes to merit aid. Also, different privates give varying amounts of aid based on varying income levels. Whether it is worth it to apply to out of state public schools depends on your situation.</p>
<p>So should I not even worry about the IS/OSS ratio of students and if it is private/public?</p>
<p>In my opinion, if you live in a state with a top public university (CA,MI,VA,NC,WI), then it usually is not worth paying a large premium to attend most private schools or any OOS public. No matter where you live, it is usually not worth paying what amount to private school rates to attend an OOS public university. Not when you have private school alternatives that offer smaller classes or other advantages at comparable costs (or even much lower costs after aid).</p>
<p>Financial aid can tilt the balance. How it tilts depends on the schools being compared, your qualifications, and your financial situation. However, if a public university is awarding lots of merit aid to OOS students, that may be a red flag that it is having a hard time attracting top students even from its own state. Solid state universities usually have no trouble these days getting many high-scoring A students from their own states, solely on the basis of cost even before aid.</p>
<p>If there is an OOS public you really like for some reason, there is no harm in applying. Or, think about what attracts you and look for similar qualities in other schools.</p>
<p>UNC-Chapel Hill and UVa are great with OOS aid. Other schools (like South Carolina, for example) will give an out-of-state applicant in-state tuition if they meet certain academic criteria. I’d argue that yes, it certainly is worth applying to some out-of-state schools if they seem to be of interest to you.</p>
<p>Well, there are a lot of factors at work here. First, your claims about aid are only valid with regards to need-based aid, where only UVa and UNC meet full need among OOS publics. Not all publics provide good merit aid, but high EFC students will probably find them cheaper if only due to the lower starting price tag.</p>
<p>It never hurts to apply and see what happens. However, I would not become too emotionally invested in OOS publics like UMich or UCB that have exceptionally high price tags, especially if your state has a good public flagship.</p>
<p>my son went to james madison university which was an out of state public college for him. he received no financial aid but to send him there cost me only about 40% of what it would have cost me to send him to the private schools to which he was admitted. some out of state public colleges are a good value.</p>
<p>I live in Michigan and applied to out of state publics, I now will be attending The University of Iowa and couldn’t be more excited. So yes, it’s definately worth it.</p>
<p>“In my opinion, if you live in a state with a top public university (CA,MI,VA,NC,WI), then it usually is not worth paying a large premium to attend most private schools or any OOS public.”</p>
<p>I am a California resident and I will only be applying to 3 in state schools (UCLA, SDSU, and Cal Poly SLO). I fully intend to go OOS because only one California school meets my requirements of an undergraduate business school and a big time football program (Cal) and I will not get in there. I would much rather go to Texas, pay the 50k for 1 year and establish residency in Texas than spend 25k a year to go to UC Riverside (yuck).</p>
<p>With the CA budget crisis, it is nearly impossible for the large majority of students to attend the most desirable UC schools (UCLA and Cal). Now it is even really difficult to get into the mid tier UC’s (UCSD, UCD, UCSB, UCI). The budget crisis has left many students with UCSC, UCR, and UCM as their only UC options. And let’s face it, very few people want to go to these schools. The same situation is also happening with CSU’s, leaving many students with limited options.</p>
<p>^ You will not get in-state rates in TX after a year. I don’t know why everyone thinks it’s easy to to do that.
[University</a> of Texas at Austin - Texas Residency](<a href=“http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/residency/]University”>http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/residency/)</p>
<p>Erin’s Dad: When I took my visit to UT in late June, I spoke with some people in the admissions office about establishing residency. They all said that it only takes 1 year if you meet all of the requirements. They also said that I may need to come to Austin a week or 2 early and that I should ask give them a call about it if I am admitted. They also encouraged trying to establish residency. I also spoke with some people that had successfully established residency after one year and they all said the same thing. Here’s a link to what they said the requirements are:</p>
<p>“As you can see, establishing residency isn’t as difficult as it may seem; live in Texas for one year, be independent, and work for 8-10 hours per week (or one of the other options listed above) and that will accomplish it!”
[Texas</a> Residency | Be a Longhorn Blogs](<a href=“http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/blogs/deana_williams/texas-residency/]Texas”>http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/blogs/deana_williams/texas-residency/)</p>
<p>On the link that you posted, I believe that is referring to living in Texas for one year prior to enrollment in the semester in which you are attempting to gain residency. </p>
<p>No offense, but I think I’ll take the admissions people’s word over yours.</p>
<p>Good luck then. If she is the deputy director of admissions she should know what she’s talking about. Let us know how it goes.</p>
<p>Yes, good luck. But I’d ask some hard questions about what it means to “live in Texas for one year” and “be independent”. Does living in a college dorm count? Does independence mean paying some high percentage of your own living costs? It would be interesting to hear how this works out.</p>
<p>I hope this student noted the following…</p>
<p><a href=“Note%20to%20readers:%20Some%20changes%20to%20the%20steps%20that%20someone%20can%20take%20to%20establish%20residency%20are%20expected%20in%20August%202010.%20Please%20check%20with%20UT%20Austin’s%20Residency%20Office%20for%20details.”>I</a>*</p>
<p>And…how is he going to pay $50k for the first year? Does he think he (a student) can get a big loan?</p>
<p>I fully intend to go OOS because only one California school meets my requirements of an undergraduate business school and a big time football program (Cal) and I will not get in there. I would much rather go to Texas, pay the 50k for 1 year and establish residency in Texas than spend 25k a year to go to UC Riverside (yuck).</p>
<p>What are your stats? There are other OOS schools with good B-schools and good football teams that would give you merit scholarships if you have strong stats.</p>
<p>You can buy a piece of land in TX on Ebay for next to nothing, perhaps $100. You will get absolute desert land. But it will be easier than all the other requirements on the list. Try that…</p>
<p>If I had the time and have decided the target state, ie TX. I would buy a piece of land in TX one year before the college decision, be not on my parents return and save me $25,000.</p>
<p><a href=“NOTE:%20There%20are%20currently%20pending%20changes%20to%20the%20residency%20rule%20regarding%20establishing%20a%20domicile%20by%20purchasing%20property.%20Please%20contact%20the%20residency%20office%20for%20further%20information.”>quote</a>
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<p>Well, you must do it quickly.</p>