<p>i searched for this already..so-- dont hate.</p>
<p>I want to apply to a public school in California, but I'm coming way out of left field, so to speak. i dont want to go to a public school in my state, they dont "fit" well..so anyway, how will financial aid look if i enrolled in one of the UCs?</p>
<p>It will be more expensive than in-state in all likelihood. Make sure you have other options.</p>
<p>^ of course.</p>
<p>The UCs give exceptionally poor OOS financial aid even in the best of times–and in this economy, they will be looking for OOS full-pays. You’re better off looking at private schools that offer merit aid.</p>
<p>If you really want the public school feel, there are many private that will provide that or better and they will prob offer better fin aid than oos publics. Try USC, Wake Forest…</p>
<p>Don’t waste your time nor money applying to California publics if you need finaid; aid at a private will be much better. In general, OOS students are expected to produce ~$25k per year in self-help at a UC (unless you are a Regent’s scholar). A high stat URM would have a great shot at a alumni scholarship from UCLA, but that is only about $5k/yr.</p>
<p>I agree with bluebayou and other posters, FA for OOS students at the UCs is dismal. Have you checked to see if your state has cooperative agreements with neighboring states to reduce the cost of OOS tuition? Here in the West we have the Western University Exchange program where OOS students pay 1.5 of instate tuition at participating schools.</p>
<p>The UCs don’t give money to out-of-staters. At all.</p>
<p>I applied to UCI, UCSD, UCLA and Berkeley as OOS…
UCI offered me their honors programs and basically everything they could… except money. Because they don’t give money to out of staters.
UCSD? Nothing.
UCLA gave me some OOS regents scholarship, which was only $5000 a year as long as I remained an OOS student and paid an extra 20k a year for a mediocre engineering program.
And I got nothing from Berkeley but they’re the one UC that’s worth the outrageous fees.</p>
<p>Best case, you have an EFC of zero and you apply to all the UCs… you’re still screwed.
Their out of state fees ($22,000+ per year currently) are non-negotiable and there is no way to get grant money to cover it.
They would force you to take out the federal loan and the UC loan maximums each year, ($6,600 for an incoming UC student in 2009) and additionally add $3-4k of work study.
And you don’t get Cal Grants, so there’s a couple extra thousand you have to come up with.</p>
<p>Right now, you’re looking at paying $35k+ a year with an EFC of 0 if you’re OOS. =[</p>
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<p>Patently false. The UCs do give some money to out-of-staters, but it ain’t much. OOS’ers are eligible for Regents, but you need Ivy-level stats for consideration. Thus, go to the Ivy since it will be cheaper.</p>
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<p>I didn’t mean it in such a literal sense, but more of a “don’t expect any scholarship (save regents) to bring the costs down so that they’re manageable”</p>
<p>Even I got money from UCLA, so they do give it, but with an EFC of 0 it would have still cost $30,000 a year. Not worth it.</p>
<p>I’m in a similar situation. I actually like my state universities, though one is only 10 minutes from my house and another is almost ranked top 25 by USNEWS. I’m trying to find out of state universities that I find to like, but also would support me well with financial aid. I think I may need to start looking at private universities, one George Washington University which only have an acceptance rate of 37%… and different than most public universities. If I happen to get accepted into instate and out of state universities and can not decide between, I think financial situation would be a big factor.</p>
<p>Though there is always multiple scholarships one can apply for, but that is not a definate the scholarships can be treated for 4 years.</p>
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<p>So reviewing scholarships, and financial assistance to out of state students I think I will start taking universities of my list and replacing them with new ones (likely privates).</p>
<p>There have been a lot of posts on CC lately about out of state universities’ financial aid policies. I’m curious why there is such an interest all of a sudden. I would think that with the current financial situation that most state universities are going to get an increase in applications from their own residents as in state is usually the cheapest college ride.</p>
<p>Most state schools do not guarantee meeting 100% of need even for their own residents. Yes, there might be a handful, UVA is one that comes to mind as one that tends to meet need, but if you look at the stats, you will see that most state schools do not meet need, nor are their stats very good about the percentage of need that they meet. </p>
<p>There are situations when an out of state public would be a good deal for a given student. Sometimes there are reciprocal arrangements between states where you can go to an OOS school for close to your own state school costs. There are some OOS schools that are good deals in sticker price even with the OOS premium. Also, there are OOS colleges that are looking for students that fit a certain category, perhaps in terms of high test scores, that they are willing to give nice financial packages. Momfromtexas’s outstanding thread on finding full ride scholarships gives a methodology that may yield some OOS publics that fall in this category. These schools are often not well known outside of their region. Also there are some great merit awards out there for OOSers that are highly competitive such as those at Georgia Tech, UNC. Those awards fall in the same category as those generous merit awards that private colleges such as JHU, UCh, Duke offer. They are very difficult to snag. There are also some schools that have published categories where they will give certain students merit money; those who are NMS or have certain gpa/testscores. Pitt is an example of this. </p>
<p>If you are looking for college money those are certainly venues to investigate. However, also look at your own state schools and some private colleges as well. It’s good to cast a wide net when you are determined to get some scholarship money and/or financial aid. I have seen a number of situations where the school that seemed least likely to come up with the money be the one with the best offer. However, don’t put all of your eggs in one basket, such as the OOS public basket.</p>
<p>thanks people, i appreciate it. so ill just apply at UCBerks for craps and giggles.</p>
<p>cpt-
“There have been a lot of posts on CC lately about out of state universities’ financial aid policies. I’m curious why there is such an interest all of a sudden.”
most of the UCs have what i want in terms of academics and sports. location is a factor too.</p>
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a little elaboration might allow other cc’ers to help you with suggestions. Location - west coast, warm weather. etc?; academics - which areas are you considering? sports - D1? What state are you coming from? I agree you should give a look at USC.</p>
<p>Junie:</p>
<p>if you are considering big time D1 sports as a spectator, then the California list is Cal, 'SC, Stanford, and UCLA, all of which do both football and basketball. Davis just moved up in football, and Santa Barbara excels at soccer.</p>
<p>But if you need a lot of finaid, UCLA will find your more money than Cal. (UCLA has a separate alumni group that awards scholarships to Af-Am matriculants.) However, teh $ still won’t be close to the cost of attendance. Stanford is very URM friendly, as is 'SC.</p>
<p>csleslie51 -
“a little elaboration might allow other cc’ers to help you with suggestions. Location - west coast, warm weather. etc?; academics - which areas are you considering? sports - D1? What state are you coming from? I agree you should give a look at USC.”
im from new jersey, and california is my top state. im want to take the premed route and minor in classics. california schools are big on volleyball–better for me, because im a volleyball player. i want D1 or D2. </p>
<p>bluebayou-
stanford has everything, but its got that ridiculous selectivity “factor”…</p>
<p>im not feeling UCLA, its too big (25k students). id be lost. USC looks alright. =D its a match. </p>
<p>thanks for your help =D</p>
<p>premed route? perhaps you should check out this link:<a href=“https://services.aamc.org/publicatio...321&pdf_id=132[/url]”>https://services.aamc.org/publicatio...321&pdf_id=132</a> Scientific Foundations for Future Physicians 2009
There are lots of ways to get the “premed” education at many schools. Are you being recruited for vb? which is your priority, academic or sports ranking? USC and Stanford are probably your only options if you are looking for top schools in both. Otherwise your options are more varied; University of Hawaii has a top notch team in case you plan to expand your horizons. ;)</p>