<p>Oh it's for real. 770 math ii (well maybe not for MIT/Caltech) and 780 chem are great scores. Even though I know this can and probably will be offensive you seriously need to chill. I'm not so sure if your child is an ivy hopeful or you are hopeful that she gets into an ivy. If she is afraid to tell you her wonderful scores because she thinks you might get disappointed, something is seriously wrong.</p>
<p>Yes, I really got carried away by my D's 1 year senior batch i.e. 2007-2008 who performed really well on all fronts, there were around 10 Chem 800, 12 Math 800 and a couple of Bios and Physics. So the expectations were very high going into the Sophomore year based on the then junior batch performance on these tests. But I think we cannot compare students across the batch and some batches tend to be much stronger than others.
I've told my D that the scores are really good and she should concentrate on her junior year.</p>
<p>Now I'm again confused after going thru the posts. If 770 is not good for MIT/CIT then she should definitely retake it. Because she should have a good shot at those colleges. Last I checked the mean at CIT was 780 and MIT 750. The mean at CIT has never gone lower than 780.</p>
<p>780 chem and 770 math are good scores, but not awesome. It means top 9% of chem test takers and top 16% of math takers. However it is probably not worth retaking since I don't think Ivies look closely at 10 or 20 points difference.</p>
<p>POIH, are you sure those figures are for the mean Math IIc or SAT I Math? I believe they are for the SAT I math. Also 770 is good for MIT not CIT (there you seriously need 800) however just not wonderful. Fact is, if she got a 770 on math II, she would not do well at Caltech. When 800, AIME winners go to Caltech and describe their math as "tough" I doubt your daughter would be up to snuff with Caltech's standards even if she got 800. However, MIT is another story. Her 770 is quite strong there. Anyway, where does your daughter want to go to school? Just any Ivy/top school?</p>
<p>FredFredBurger: My D's dream school is Yale. She wants to pursue computer science at undergrad and want to go for Medicine after that.</p>
<p>The mean at CIT is 780 as depicted in slides I got from my D. She got it as part of the caltech preview email to attend a summer session.</p>
<p>Also the 780 is the mean SAT II Math 2C for the matriculant students so accepted student will be lower. Also the Chem is 760 for the matriculant so should be lower for the accepted candidates too.</p>
<p>I don't think she is out of range for CIT or MIT.</p>
<p>POIH, if your final goal is to go to medical school then the undergraduate degree does not matter, ie it does not have to be at an Ivy let alone Cal Tech. In addition, CS probably not an easy degree to get a good GPA which is a requirement for any medical school let alone top medical schools, so why do you have conflicting goals? It does not make any sense.</p>
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<p>Those scores are more than good enough for Yale. Just make your daughter do some community service in Peru or something, and make a documentary of that. She should then be all set.</p>
<p>What I don't get is why your daughter would want to major in CS. If her ultimate goal is to become a doctor, then she should go into some major to inflate her grades in college - thereby giving her a better shot at med schools.</p>
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<p>Asians tend to be extremely prestige and status conscious, but they're not exactly the most strategic planners in the world. I say this as an Asian myself.</p>
<p>TooRichForAid: First it is not my goals so I cann't answer it. Everyone here on the board says let the children think for themselves so that is what they end up thinking.
I would have gone for Comp Science followed by GMAT and not MCAT.
CalTech is interesting as it takes 6 students directly into UCSD Medical program and that is what I think my D will be applying for at CalTech.
MIT has a similar joint degree program with Harvard.
She seems to be aiming too high it seems, maybe things will clear up after July 7th when she gets her 4 APs result. If she do well then she will still be dreaming for another year otherwise it will be a good time to take another look.</p>
<p>I think if she scores above 700 on SAT II subject tests she should look into the 6-7 year Md program at UCSD, they invite you to apply directly from high school if the student is good.</p>
<p>Big Brother 1984: She likes computer science and she wants to automate the medical profession at physicians level. For that she thinks she need to study both medicine and comp science.
I don't force opinions and she may be able to figure what is the right path to follow.</p>
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<p>That's fair enough. Hey, I would've done the same thing. Fluff majors are just so damn pointless.</p>
<p>Worry more about your daughter making herself unique and able to stand out rather than scoring like 20 points higher on some test</p>
<p>Eloquence: Fair enough; any suggestions about the type of activities that can bring uniqueness.</p>
<p>She does Jets/Robotics/ModelUN/Speech/NHS/CommunityService. Nothing unique though.</p>
<p>That's for her to find out though; sure she can get an 800 on the test, but so many others do that, what's to make her be a better pick than them?</p>
<p>If she's really passionate about something, then she should [obviously] pursue that big time</p>
<p>What is pursue big time? She is not into lab research. She wants to do develop some automatic system. But I'm just unable to see how that is going to help her and it will take considerable time on her part.</p>
<p>It does not necessarily have to be related to what she wants to go into (although it is not bad if it is). It is what she does when she is not studying, something that shows she has interest in something other that getting all As.
The 4 or 5 random clubs all kids join in HS don't always cut it anymore, because everyone has them. So that is where the hook comes in, something you are passionate about (in addition to school) that sets you apart.</p>
<p>ParentOfIvyHope: Seek counseling. Please.</p>
<p>POIH, another point I forgot to mention is that your D should have an edge as a girl applies to CIT/MIT with a major in CS/EE. I think she has better chance than to be a girl applies for humanities major at a non-tech school.</p>