is summer school the only way to get around bad professors?

<p>(i.e. bresnock and hou for econ 1 and 2)</p>

<p>Prof. Bresnock also teaches Econ 1 in the summer.
There's no escaping her and her chocolate chip cookies. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>i personally enjoyed hou's econ 2 class a lot.</p>

<p>bresnock isn't BAD. she's an okay prof. </p>

<p>my lowest grade at UCLA is from her, but she's not a bad lecturer so i give her credit there.</p>

<p>wow is econ 1 really that hard? The comments that ppl gave on bruinwalk.com weren't that bad...</p>

<p>to me they seemed half and half for both hou and bresnock. brandnew and kfc, would you guys be willing to share some thoughts? Is it worth it to take summer school to get good grades or are the grades possible with them? I am just trying my best to make it into bizecon.</p>

<p>good grades are possible with any professor that grades on a curve, simply because if you're the top 15-20% (or whatever the curve is) of the class, you WILL get an A. that's just how curves work. If you take a class with an "easy" professor it's still the same as with a hard professor, the top get A's. i've never avoided a class until the next quarter because the professor looked hard on bruinwalk, because I realized that no matter what, if you can be the top 15-20% of a class, you will get an A. </p>

<p>If I remember correctly, Hou's curve was fairly generous for an econ prof. (Something around 20% A/A-'s). and if that sounds like a hard curve, it's really not, because econ 2 is early in the econ sequence and it's also taken by a bunch of non-econ majors. this means there are a lot of people in the class that have not yet been "weeded" out, who are not really that competitive. the competition is much harder in upper div econs, and especially upper div management classes because just about everyone in those classes has made it into biz-econ and is pretty competitive. so basically, if you can't cut it in hou's class, you probably weren't meant for biz-econ anyway. use that thought as motivation to do well.</p>

<p>For Hou specific tips: don't be intimidated by his reputation. lecture is optional if 1. you read the book carefully, and 2. you do as many past exams as possible, which he posts on his website. i would go so far as to say practice exams are the most important thing in the class. i did every practice exam he had on his website and ended up with an A+ in the class.</p>

<p>just remember that getting into bizecon doesnt necessarily mean you'll do WELL in bizecon. if you're going to backdoor by getting good grades in summer school, then make sure you're still competitive enough AFTER you're in the program. otherwise you won't get the lucrative ibanking jobs that ya'll want here on CC. ;) </p>

<p>but i do have to agree with brandnew2 that there aren't a lot of weeded students in econ1 and econ2. plus some people don't even take econ1 cuz they passed out from AP testing. so these two classes might not be the best indicators at exactly how competitive you are with actual bizecon majors; perhaps it's okay to take these 2 for summer school. </p>

<p>tips... do as many practice problems as possible. ditto what brandnew2 said. and DONT FALL ASLEEP in the 8am class!!!!!!</p>

<p>thanks for the tips, guys. But I guess we don't really have a choice... I checked the schedule of classes, and it seems like only Bresnock will be teaching econ1.</p>

<p>thanks guys, the advice is encouraging. however, if i wanted to double major in something, is it still possible to do so in 4 years? or should i still take the summer school?</p>

<p>bump... sorry, im just trying to decide whether or not its worth it. The first class started today, so I have until tomorrow to decide (since i wont be behind that much)</p>

<p>It's entirely possible to double major in something and still graduate in 4 years. If I were to do only biz-econ I could graduate in two and a half. If it's the summer before college starts for you, you should really just relax and spend the time with friends. It's most likely the last free summer you'll have in a long time. You have plenty of time ahead of you for classes, no need to rush.</p>

<p>yeah, i really want to do bizecon, but after looking at the various reviews on bruinwalk, the professors really seem like airheads in the accounting/econ department maybe with a handful of exceptions.</p>

<p>grr. i shouldve just gone to a liberal arts college. this competition is already getting to my nerves and i havent even started.</p>

<p>kfc4u, are you aspiring to be that ibanker?! :)</p>

<p>jimmy: don't sweat it. and don't trust bruinwalk reviews so much, because it's a biased sample (suffers from self-selection bias, if you know some statistics). usually only those who feel strongly about a professor one way or the other will write a review on a professor. in most classes, the majority of the students either like a professor or don't care either way, but it's the few students who for some reason hate the professor or get a bad grade that write the bruinwalk reviews. that's why there are so many negative things written on bruinwalk. personally, ive found most of my accounting/econ professors to be pretty solid; not exceptional, but certainly not "airheads" either.</p>

<p>thanks for the encouragement brandnew :)</p>

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<p>haha i once considered it but i dont think it's the right career for me. </p>

<p>besides, my mom would faint if she heard i wanted to be an ibanker. her co-worker's daughter died at age 27 from the stress from ibanking. </p>

<p>of course in the CC world, no one stresses, no one dies and everyone makes a couple million dollars a year as an ibanker at goldman sachs :rolleyes:</p>

<p>she died, well, that's somewhat rare.</p>