<p>As an American student, I was recently admitd to the managment faculty. Ecstatic, McGill quickly became my top choice, then I logged to CC, and I'm not so sure. </p>
<p>How widely respected is McGill in the US buisness community? My other option is the University of Pittsburgh, which, I would condier no contest. However, I know coming out of Pittsburgh I will be able to find a job, will I have the same security with McGill?</p>
<p>Also, what is this I hear about the managment faculty being lax an/or lazy? Will I learn if I go there?</p>
<p>Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Neither school is respected in the U.S. business community. At best, you will get an entry level job that anybody from Podunk U would get. McGill is more respected internationally; the school has a good rep. in the Middle East, France and Singapore. There is zero recruitment at either school for any job you would actually want.</p>
<p>And the BCom faculty is horrible at McGill. You should see how overcrowded the finance classes are. Like I said, you could come out with a 3.9 in finance and work at a coffee shop (in fact, it’s more likely than working in finance). I took a 400 level international finance class where everyone got a B+ or higher because they didn’t bother to actually grade us because there were too many students for one TA.</p>
<p>Like the health care system in Canada, the subsidized university system sounds far better on paper. Both are underfunded and crappy by U.S. standards. Now is it fair that less people have access to education and health care in the U.S.? Maybe not, but that’s a different argument.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say that neither school is respected in the US business community. I think Canadian schools are gaining respect among Americans…but I think while career services might not be so great, it’s definetely possible to get a great job. My dad went to McGill and he earns six figures (we live in the US now)…sooo perhaps it might take some work on your part, but I don’t think it’s impossible.</p>
<p>this is quite discouraging. I’m accepted into the Management Faculty as well and the reason i’m considering McGill is mainly because I’m an Canadian and its low cost as opposed to the cost of the U.S. schools i’ve been accepted into such as Georgetown and Notre Dame… I guess if you really decide on going to Mcgill, aim for a prestigious grad school in the U.S. rather than finding a job right after undegrad.</p>
<p>oh btw, how well does Mcgill place its students to a Top Law School in the U.S.?</p>
<p>^McGill places very well into top law schools.</p>
<p>Just so I don’t sound too negative, McGill is very rigorous and standards are very high. Grad schools know this. </p>
<p>However, getting a 3.7+ GPA is near impossible at McGill because of the curve. There isn’t so much deflation…it’s more an absence of inflation.</p>
<p>If you got into Notre Dame or Gtown for business, and making money after undergrad is your only concern, go there. NPV is still higher even with debt. If you intend on grad studies, then go to McGill to save money.</p>
<p>I’ve heard about the grading system in McGill. I know law schools focus heavily on the undergrad GPA, which is probably the most important factor for law school admission. so the absence of inflation is a concern…</p>
<p>how difficult is it to obtain a 3.8+ in Management? isn’t it relatively easier than the other departments?</p>
<p>Let’s face it, management is not a difficult program in any school. That is why people who can’t study and still want to have a university education will often end up in programs such as marketing, business studies etc. Take a look at the UK and particularly Australia.</p>
<p>That being said, you can’t be a complete moron and still manage to graduate, at least not in the reputable schools. Failing would be difficult unless you work towards it and acing isn’t necessarily a walk in the park either. </p>
<p>Given enough effort, one can get a 3.5 and above and truly exceptional ones can get a near perfect CGPA. Most however would end up between 3.0-3.5. I must add that a 3.5 in marketing is not necessarily equivalent to a 3.5 in mechanical engineering or biochemistry.</p>
<p>As for the reputation, you won’t go wrong with McGill. McGill is not famous for its business school. That is a fact but getting admitted into McGill and successfully completing one’s degree is worth mentioning. </p>
<p>Canadian banks do recruit at McGill as well as some consulting firms and IBs. The recruiting efforts wouldn’t be as aggressive as that at elite American schools. McGill would probably be classified as a secondary target school not because it’s not competitive but because of its location. </p>
<p>Coming back to the question on the difficulty in getting a 3.8 in Bcom. Doable if you have the right combination of luck and effort.</p>
<p>I’m a rising Junior and have a mid 3.8 with minimal effort and impartial class attendance.
I’m a pretty lazy individual though and managed mid to high 2200s on the SATs with 3 days of prep the week of the exam.</p>
<p>The difficulty arises mainly not from challenging material but courses in which the material is inherently easy. Usually grades are fit onto a bell curve with the average being a B-/B. I find it hard to differentiate yourself in naming terminology, etc.</p>
<p>The finance department’s pretty understaffed, and it’s hard to register for classes. One or two required finance major classes seem pretty extraneous. </p>
<p>So far, my coursework has left much to be desired. I alternate between being as bitter as Wutang sounds and being satisfied with the ROI on the approximate 1k/year I’m paying to go here.</p>
<p>Upon re-reading that, it seemed a tad negative. The faculty members are exceptional and very approachable. Most of my 2nd year classes have been under 50 students. If you approach profs with semi-intelligent conversation or anything other than grade-grubbing, you’ll be on good terms.</p>
<p>Some of the management students I’ve talked to are unhappy (possibly because we chant “cubicle” at them during Frosh Week). </p>
<p>If you have any interest in broader stuff - i.e. the humanities - I would go and try to transfer into Arts. I am studying poli sci, English, etc. The classes ARE huge, arguably impersonal, with brutal grade curves, but they are very interesting and all my professors so far have been fantastic.</p>
<p>Anyone who makes or changes their college decision based on comments from this (or any) forum get what they deserve. If you place such a critical decison as which college to attend on the ramblings of bitter posters like Wutang, then you may be better off goimg to Podunk U!</p>