<p>I cant help but sleep through morning classes all the time. I don't even want to count the number of classes I have skipped. I didn't go to my classes at all on Wed and Thurs last week. I stopped going to my econ lecture a long time ago since the professor doesn't really teach anything new or useful except for summarizing what he wrote in his textbook. I also stopped going to my math lecture since the professor posts his lecture notes online which are pretty much exact transcription of what he says in the class if not more comprehensible. I even skipped my major classes, physics, now quite often which is basically power point presentation of the lecture notes everyone already bought. I learn and prepare for exams now by relying mostly on reading text. I am wondering if anyone else has this problem at huge state school (btw, I am a freshman and go to UIUC). Although I am not all behind and get A+'s or A's for all of my classes, I still feel kind of guilty for not going to classes. Part of me doesn't feel that this is the right way to take advantage of college education. Plus my parents must be really angry if they learn this cuz they are bearing the burden of the tuition.</p>
<p>I think that's the case for a lot of state schools.</p>
<p>If you're doing well enough in your classes, why worry?</p>
<p>your school gives out A+? my school doesnt even have A+ even when i scored a 100% on one exam...</p>
<p>If you don't go to class, what is the purpose of going to college at all? You aren't getting anything out of it by just reading textbooks. Posted lecture notes are never a substitute for going to class since the professors always elaborate on them and explain some of the parts that are vague or complicated. </p>
<p>When you have a job you will have to be able to go to work not just "sleep through" your whole morning, so you might as well deal with it now and go to class. It also helps to go to class so you are already familiar with the material before you start studying or doing assignments.</p>
<p>if you take work into account after graduation, this won't be a problem or at least shouldn't be. a lot of what you learn in class is just theory. so if you know the material it doesn't matter if you show up or not because in the end you still know it. and getting up for work and getting up for classes is a bit different. obviously in this case the student doesn't get penalized if he doesn't go but at a job you do get penalized (fired). when the stakes are higher there is usually more incentive for the person to do what he has to do.</p>
<p>The other thing to take into consideration is that a lot of these aren't really major classes (only physics in this case) so it's even better if he doesn't have to go and he can just pass em by reading the material.</p>
<p>Then why are you in school? It's not all about just reading the book, even if doing so does still get you As. Get out of bed and go to class. 3-4 hours out of your day can't be that hard to handle (and this is coming from someone who went to maybe 60% of lectures last year, but this semester has only missed 4 classes total)</p>
<p>You go to school to pass your classes and get that diploma that jobs and companies will look at when hiring you. When you take your classes your goal is to pass no matter what. If you can pass with the highest grade possible then there is no reason to go. That time you've spend not going can go to other things. School is about learning and books can teach (sometimes even better than some professors) just as well as professors.</p>
<p>I've made my point. I haven't heard a good reason (saying that it's more than just reading the books doesn't cut it. what exactly 'more than just reading the books'?) as to why he should bother to go to class if he's getting A/A+ in his classes.</p>
<p>I'm a freshman at a huge state school, and my largest class has 27 people in it. Try to take honors classes (if you're in an honors program) or classes that meet early in the morning (although I know you said some of yours were morning classes, try like 7:30 or 8:30 AM maybe), and you'll have fewer people. Also, once you get into your major, the classes will probably get smaller.</p>
<p>Talk about grade inflation (no offense)</p>
<p>i am not really sure if there is any substantial grade inflation. My physics class is just quite easy for me. and the class average of econ and math, as far as I know, are around C's.</p>
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You go to school to pass your classes and get that diploma that jobs and companies will look at when hiring you. When you take your classes your goal is to pass no matter what. If you can pass with the highest grade possible then there is no reason to go. That time you've spend not going can go to other things. School is about learning and books can teach (sometimes even better than some professors) just as well as professors.</p>
<p>I've made my point. I haven't heard a good reason (saying that it's more than just reading the books doesn't cut it. what exactly 'more than just reading the books'?) as to why he should bother to go to class if he's getting A/A+ in his classes.
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<p>Sigh...</p>
<p>You're right. Shooting for the highest grade possible is the only thing you get out of college. I bet your college experience is/was/has been wonderful.</p>
<p>Check the school policies for missing class. My son missed a lot of one class because it was a required class that was covering stuff he already knew well. He had a good grade in it but the teacher dropped him for non attendance right before finals. Would have been an easy A too :(. And yes - as a parent I was a little ticked off.</p>
<p>I have a horrible problem, getting up in the morning. Have had it all of my life. And the sleepiness, sluggishness affects me for a good part of the day leading into depression. If you cannot get to bed at a decent hour, you may want to take afternoon classes. Be aware that in the work world, this is not going to fly, but many kids live this way through college. It could cost you graduation in 4 years if you have to eliminate morning classes from your schedule too. If you are getting to bed at a decent hour, and still can't get up in the morning, you need to see an internist and a mental health therapist of sorts. You may need a stimulent to get you going. You should not self medicate this way, as it can be very dangerous. I take a mild stimulent about a half hour before I get up out of bed, and it has made a difference for me.</p>
<p>rich1659, academically speaking I just don't see the point if you're going to pass the class anyways. what exactly is being missed by not going to these classes? i haven't heard anyone give a reason. btw i can't do that at my school. 6 classes and i fail, i believe is the policy. and even if i could i wouldn't do it because i'm not much of a reader so i have to rely on some of the lectures and notes i take to pass.</p>
<p>If you get good grades who cares. It seems like you are not learning anything even if you get up in the wee hours of the morn. If classes aren't helping u and you can get all your information and get good grades... i say do whatever pleases you. </p>
<p>HOWEVER, i really like going to lectures so I never miss them. (i only skipped 2 discussion sections and got up 30 minutes late for my studio classes before...) I rather listen to somebody speak for 1 hr and 20 minutes rather than trying to read and get bored on my own... I mean if i'm in a lecture i HAVE to listen and take time, you know? (although i do fall asleep occasionally)</p>
<p>Who cares????? Let's see, your professors don't hold lecture for their benefit, it's for yours. Whoever said they elaborate on online notes and text material was right. If they felt you could self-teach with what they provide online, then the would put in their sylabus something like, "There are no lectures for this class. It's only required that students attend class for scheduled tests and the final exam". If that isn't in the sylabus, then it's probably indicated that you can miss X number of classes without penalty, every absence after that will deduct X number of points from your final grade, and if you miss more than X number of classes, the professor can flunk you despite whatever grade your work has earned you. I go to a state school and that's how it is for us, that if we miss a lot of classes or just stop going to a class all together, then professors can and will flunk you. </p>
<p>AND, even though it's a state school, your parents are paying good money for you to get the full college experience, which includes attending classes. I wouldn't blame my mom one bit for being angry at me for skipping classes, but I wouldn't do it anyway, because there aren't too many professors at my school that put notes online or test only on what was in the text book, especially for intro classes. So, if I were to skip a class, I would be in a mess. Next semester, go to class.</p>
<p>Everybody learns differently though. (some people are saying how THEY would do if they didn't goto class... but everybody's different) I mean the good 'right' answer would be screaming goto class but if they are getting A's and professor's not taking attendance... then its not going to make much of a difference(except many probably to her parents). I mean A's are pretty hard to pull of even when they goto class and study like crazy for classes like physics. And truthfully, professors hold classes for the students' benefits but also because its their job and they need the money. Make sure your professor doesn't take attendance though.</p>
<p>I mean, I SUGGEST you goto class but its your decision. If it's making you feel guilty despite your grades, then goto class. If you think your parents are going to kill you soon as they find out how many classes you missed, then goto class. But the world isn't fair and you might be able to do well despite not going to classes. HOWEVER somebody i do know skipped numerous classes and never went to class and his grades are slipping. Never be too sure.</p>