<p>^ Good post.</p>
<p>FSU: What is your basis for that? NYU is a great school with a top business school and great arts department. It is also good in liberal arts and the sciences.</p>
<p>oh god here we go again, stern dude its not that great of a school, it was basically an inflated rating, and if Nyu happens to go up this year, it will lead me to believe, even more that USNEWS is bias.</p>
<p>Once again.. what is your basis for that despite NYU having top departments in multiple fields? Anything besides personal opinion is welcome....</p>
<p>sternman, </p>
<p>a lot of schools have top departments in multiple fields. thats why they're "top schools." nyu simply does not have the strong enough overall curriculum to justify it being in the top 30. (let alone fitting into the usnews methodology well - which is why it is in the lower part of the teir 1 rankings.)</p>
<p>Well compare it to say, Wake Forrest. Top 30 we can argue about, i'm addressing FSU saying its not top 40.</p>
<p>But will it actually affect the 2007 ranking? It will probably really take a toll on the 2008 ranking. I guess we will find out on August 18th.</p>
<p>Well Tulane only ended up dropping 1 spot. I think in the years to come they will drop even more, however I think that US News is trying to spread it out so it isn't as severe.</p>
<p>To jags861,</p>
<p>You are completely wrong. NYU is a very strong research university across the board, far stronger than you apparently think. In all rankings of world universities which are based on the research reputation and quality of the universities and their faculty, NYU appears much higher on the lists than in the USNWR ranking. </p>
<p>Thus, in the 2006 Academic Ranking of World Universities,
<a href="http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006_TopAmer.htm%5B/url%5D">http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006_TopAmer.htm</a> , NYU is 21st in the US and 29th in the world.</p>
<p>On the 2006 Newsweek list of the Top 100 Global Universities,
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14321230/site/newsweek/%5B/url%5D">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14321230/site/newsweek/</a> ,
NYU is ranked 25th in the US and 39th in the world.</p>
<p>In BOTH independent rankings based on the research strengths, NYU comes well ahead of Darthmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, CMU, Notre Dame, U of Virginia, Georgetown, Tufts, Wake Forest, College of William and Mary, Brandeis, Lehigh, Boston College, etc. NYU is simply a stronger, better research university than all these, which rank higher on the USNWR list - which compares apples and oranges.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, by any objective measure, NYU is among 20-25 top research universities in the US. It has always been hard for me to figure out what exactly is measured by the USNWR rankings.</p>
<p>This one is based on a composite of all the ranked USNWR graduate programs, using the academic reputation component only (essentially an attempt to measure academic depth and breadth):</p>
<p>The Top 25 Research Universities in the U.S., 2002-2003 based on the depth and breadth of academic quality of programs </p>
<ol>
<li>Stanford University (66) </li>
<li>University of California , Berkeley (59) </li>
<li>Harvard University (54) </li>
<li>University of Michigan , Ann Arbor (49)
<ol>
<li> Princeton University (48) </li>
<li> Massachussetts Institute of Technology (43) </li>
<li> Columbia University (40) </li>
<li> Yale University (40) </li>
<li> University of Chicago (39) </li>
<li> Cornell University (38) </li>
<li> University of California , Los Angeles (37) </li>
<li> University of Wisconsin , Madison (34) </li>
<li> California Institute of Technology (33) </li>
<li> University of Texas , Austin (26) </li>
<li> University of Illinois , Urbana-Champaign (24) </li>
<li> University of Pennsylvania (23) </li>
<li> Johns Hopkins University (22) </li>
<li> Duke University (21) </li>
<li> Northwestern University (21) </li>
<li> University of Minnesota , Twin Cities (19) </li>
<li> New York University (18) </li>
<li> University of North Carolina , Chapel Hill (17) </li>
<li> University of California , San Diego (16) </li>
<li> University of Washington , Seattle (16) </li>
<li> Brown University (14) </li>
</ol></li>
</ol>
<p>Runner-up:
Carnegie-Mellon University (13) </p>
<p>Scores for other schools studied (unranked):
University of Maryland , College Park (10)
Rutgers University , New Brunswick (9)
University of Virginia (9)
Washington University , St. Louis (9)
Ohio State University (8)
Indiana University , Bloomington (6)
Pennsylvania State University (6)
Purdue University (5)
University of California , Santa Barbara (5)
University of Rochester (5)
Rice University (4)
University of California , Davis (4)
Emory University (3)
University of California , Irvine (3)
Georgetown University (2)
University of Iowa (2)
Vanderbilt University (2) </p>
<p>Okay let's stop talking about NYU. WHAT ABOUT TULANE???</p>