Is UF a PUBLIC IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL ??

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<p>Over 12,000 students, or nearly a quarter of University of Florida students come from the Miami/South Florida area, constituting the largest group of students at the university. The majority of Hispanic and Jewish students at the university are South Floridians, with an estimated 6,000 Hispanic and 10,000 Jewish students at UF. Broward County alone produces the most UF students followed by Miami-Dade County.</p>

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<p>“What I’ve seen is in line with what proud_mom says. In Florida, being a UF alum means something. But in other parts of the country, a University of Florida degree is about as meaningful as a degree from the University of Nebraska or University of New Mexico or University of South Carolina. It’s a degree from the state’s flagship public university.”</p>

<p>^^ This.</p>

<p>Although I think that UF has a highler level of brand recognition nationally, given the success of its athletic programs in recent years. Nationally I don’t think that any comparison can be made between U of Florida and U of New Mexico. Nebraska, South Carolina or Texas could be a fair comparison.</p>

<p>I honestly believe that UF is the Florida version of the University of Texas.</p>

<p>OR</p>

<p>University of Texas is the Texas version of UF.</p>

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<li>(Similar rankings, great athletics, and alumni prestige) Granted UF doesn’t have the endowment, but remember UT has to operate entirely off those funds. Whereas UF gets hundreds of millions of dollars in state funding (when you include IFAS & Shands). The stats are actually stronger for UF’s FTIC incoming classes and more research expenditures, however UT does have stronger graduate programs.</li>
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<p>“Also 99% of In-State students would choose UF > Auburn.” </p>

<p>SSobick, If you are going to make statements like this you should have hard-core facts. My UF research and statistics classes taught me a lot about the importance of valid studies needing to be made before making such claims. In addition, my personal experience does not support this claim and as I have said before, UF is not for everyone. The UF student and admission’s current arrogant attitude reminds me of how UM was twenty-five years ago. I was disgusted with the arrogant attitude of UM students then as much as I am of the arrogant attitude of many of the UF students now.</p>

<p>I would like to think that everyone can be proud of the university they attend, but to act as if your school is superior to everyone else is misguided and insecure. I had some excellent teachers at UF and I had some lousy teachers at UF, the same for other schools I’ve attended while doing post-graduate work. I am proud to be a gator, but I am not a snob to other schools. There is a lot more to the rankings.</p>

<p>UF is a good school. In no way does it have the name recognition or prestige of an Ivy League school (and it smacks of insecurity and/or elitism when people claim their school is “a public Ivy,” “the Harvard of ____!”).</p>

<p>Whether or not a school is great is somewhat subjective, but I don’t really buy into the idea that you “have to find the school that’s right for you!” If it’s a good school, it’s a good school. If you want to bicker about which school is better, just refer to the U.S. News and World Report rankings, which are considered the standard for determining a school’s rank and whether it’s first tier, second tier, etc. Right now UF is ranked at 47, which puts it at the bottom of the first tier schools.</p>

<p>But what’s far more important than the school you go to is your own performance academically. I think it’s far, far, better to be at the top of your class in a second- or even third-tier university than smack in the middle or at the bottom of a first tier school (especially in undergrad if you want to go to grad school).Take pride in your own ability, not the school you go to. A brilliant person, with enough hard work and luck, will do well anywhere.</p>

<p>Don’t put down people going to smaller/lower ranked schools. If they’re getting a free ride and performing admirably, and you’re in the lower third of your class at your “better” school with debt strapped to your back, you’ve got nothing to be snobbish about.</p>

<p>“Right now UF is ranked at 47, which puts it at the bottom of the first tier schools.”</p>

<p>uhh… no</p>

<p>Outside of Florida, UF doesn’t carry much name recognition other than sports.</p>

<p>Georgia Tech is a great example. It is known for its engineering.</p>

<p>What is UF known for? What is the area that UF excels in that provides brand recognition? (Other than sports?)</p>

<p>It’s a very solid flagship public university. And that’s meaningful. But nothing more.</p>

<p>“What is UF known for?”</p>

<p>Gatorade.</p>

<p>What’s UNC known for?</p>

<p>“uhh… no”</p>

<p>Except that it totally is.</p>

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<p>Do you make a habit out of contradicting statements before even looking to see if they’re correct? Or do you not consider the U.S. World News and Report to be the standard ranking (though you’d be wrong because it is). Or do you consider 47 not first tier (again, you’d be wrong because first tier is 1-50).</p>

<p>UF is a very good school. Respectfully, it is not a public Ivy and it is not in the same league as public institutions like UCB, UVA, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc.</p>

<p>@GarCrow</p>

<p>47 is not at the bottom of the first tier list… FSU is in the first tier and it’s #102. That’s what I was “no”-ing at.</p>

<p>I think a lot of people confuse the rankings of public universities with universities overall. I know a few years ago UF was ranked #17 out of public US universities. 47 is about where UF usually is overall. Respectable. Great even, but obviously not top 10. There is room for improvement.</p>

<p>It amazing how partisan every thread like this becomes. </p>

<p>There seems to be no middle ground. </p>

<p>The University of Florida has a lower admissions rate than Georgia Tech and the University of Michigan Ann Arbor, two much higher ranked universities. </p>

<p>To some extent, you have to give credit to UF as being a “public ivy” or whatever arbitrary term the OP wants to give it.</p>

<p>My God, you’re freaking ■■■■■■■■. Anti-UF stance? All I said was that rank #47 is NOT at the bottom of the tier-1s… If anything, I’m being “pro”-UF, as I clearly pointed out the fact that FSU is much lower on the first tier… </p>

<p>I don’t see how someone so stupid can keep acting as if he’s so smart.</p>

<p>Dnerd, </p>

<p>The fact that you constantly use ad hominem arguments doesn’t help your case. You usually take a negative UF stance on here. I only saw your first post so I didn’t have the proper context. I changed my post.</p>

<p>Take a deep breath and relax. It is way too early to be having a FSU inferiority complex when you’re still in high school, usually that takes four years in Tallahassee.</p>

<p>Did I not say this thread would go badly?</p>

<p>The original eight Public Ivies list by Moll (1985):[2]</p>

<p>College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia)
Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
University of California (campuses as of 1985)[6]
University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
University of Texas at Austin
University of Vermont (Burlington)
University of Virginia (Charlottesville)
Moll also offered in the same book “a list of worthy runners-up” and brief summaries of them[7]:</p>

<p>University of Colorado at Boulder
Georgia Institute of Technology
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
New College of the University of South Florida (Now New College of Florida)
Pennsylvania State University at University Park
University of Pittsburgh
State University of New York at Binghamton
University of Washington at Seattle
University of Wisconsin–Madison </p>

<p>LINK:The original eight Public Ivies</p>

<p>Argue Away…</p>

<p>Public Ivies according to Greene’s Guides</p>

<p>A later book titled The Public Ivies: America’s Flagship Public Universities (2001) by Howard and Matthew Greene of Greene’s Guides expanded upon the first list (italicized below) to include 30 colleges and universities.[8]
Eastern
• College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia)
• Pennsylvania State University (University Park)
• Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (New Brunswick, New Jersey)
• State University of New York at Binghamton
• University of Connecticut (Storrs)
• University of Delaware (Newark)
• University of Maryland (College Park)
• University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
• University of Virginia (Charlottesville
Western
• University of Arizona (Tucson)
• University of California (6 of 10 campuses):
o Berkeley, Davis, Irvine, Los Angeles, San Diego, and Santa Barbara
• University of Colorado at Boulder
University of Washington (Seattle)
Great Lakes & Midwest
• Indiana University (Bloomington)
• Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
• The Ohio State University (Columbus)
• University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign)
• University of Iowa (Iowa City)
• University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
• Michigan State University (East Lansing)
• University of Minnesota (Minneapolis-St. Paul)
• University of Wisconsin (Madison)
Southern
• University of Florida (Gainesville)
• University of Georgia (Athens)
• University of Texas at Austin </p>

<p>AGAIN, If you disagree with him DON’T BUY HIS BOOK!</p>

<p>PS there are MANY schools on this list that I would disagree with.
But you won’t see me on their sites bashing them.</p>

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<p>According to Collegeconfidential, as well as other sources if you’d like me to cite, first tier is 1 - 50. Second and third tier and so on are more blurred, but there is a clear distinction for first tier.</p>

<p>I go to UF, so I’m not exactly anti-UF. Just not a raving lunatic about my school. It is what it is. Stop tying up your own self confidence in the rank of your school.</p>

<p>^ UF is not my school… I chose FSU over UF. I love how so many people in this thread are making baseless assumptions. But what would possess you to link me to a page which includes tier 1 schools into the 100s if you thought I was supposed to be under the assumption that tier 1 = 1-50…?</p>

<p>“You usually take a negative UF stance on here.”</p>

<p>No, I don’t. I love UF (the school). I hate the fact that the general vibe I get from the students is… well, you. Throwing in phrases such as “ad hominem” (which honestly doesn’t even apply here) to make yourself seem like less of an idiot is not going to help you after you’ve proven that your reading comprehension skills are clearly lot at college level.</p>

<p>“It is way too early to be having a FSU inferiority complex when you’re still in high school, usually that takes four years in Tallahassee.”</p>

<p>I like how you just threw that in there when I didn’t even mention FSU, and I was actually defending UF… Quite frankly, you’re a goddamn idiot and a ■■■■■. I think you’re the first person I’m actually going to have to use the ignore feature on.</p>