<p>Why should one exercise self-discipline to do something one doesn’t personally care about ? I’m as ok being ignorant about fashion as I am being ignorant about football.</p>
<p>People will judge other people on just about every measure, because our brains automatically cause us to make judgements every moment of our lives. It does not bother me at all to be judged constantly because I expect it. </p>
<p>It would bother me to think I had been inconsiderate to others by not taking their feelings into account when I select something to wear. When I visited Fiji years ago, I was told that women generally cover their upper arms and chest on the street, so I did the same out of respect for their feelings. It was very easy to do.</p>
<p>Bethivt,
Why do you care about this thread?</p>
<p>"Bethivt,
Why do you care about this thread? "</p>
<p>Lack of self-discipline to stop posting ;)</p>
<p>Bay, that is a cultural thing (covering arms and chest)</p>
<p>Pretty difficult to take the feelings about what I’m wearing by everyone around me to heart and make everyone happy. So I’m going to stick with general cultural norms for whatever region I’m in, try to be appropriately dressed, and if someone gets offended because I’m not quite fancy enough, don’t wear the correct brand or color for them - or whatever…then oh well.</p>
<p>I am actually surprised that there are people that are so concerned about what others wear on a daily basis. LOL</p>
<p>I think I’m going to join alh! LOL!! Cat lady sweat suits all around!!! Yippeeeeeeee!</p>
<p>bethievt is probably as incredulous as I am that it matters so much to some. :)</p>
<p>I have a daughter that is very much into fashion, almost always dresses to the nines and is very educated about the fashion world.</p>
<p>I have another daughter that, while she always looks clean, pressed and well kept, often wears blue jeans, sweatshirt and Sperries.</p>
<p>Odd - D1 never rags on D2. And because of that D2 never ridicules D1, or calls her shallow or vain. (She’s not - you can tell by the way she never rags on D2 - she just likes what she likes) 
They accept that each of them have their individual priorities and comfort zones. Would be so nice if everyone could be like that.</p>
<p>I’m reminded of an Elizabeth Gaskell quote from the Cranford Chronicles:</p>
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<p>So I dress as I like!</p>
<p>This is where I’m stumped: that outside of cultural and religious norms that dictate specific modes of dress, that we’re hurting others’ FEELINGS by wearing the “wrong” clothes. Maybe very sensitive people are offended at sweats or the wrong wash on jeans or the wrong sized shoulder pads, but I doubt many people really care enough to have their feelings genuinely HURT. </p>
<p>Most sensible people, college kids included, know that different settings require different clothing. But that doesn’t mean any but a small number really worry about FEELINGS of others if they get it wrong.</p>
<p>Now, I am going to join alh and cromette adn find the most shapeless cat lady outfit I can find. With the wrong-size shoulder pads and non-cute shoes added to it.</p>
<p>“Bay, that is a cultural thing (covering arms and chest)”</p>
<p>So according to your logic when people in other countries dress modestly and well while maintaining their weight throughout their life, its just a “cultural” thing? What does that say about the US? Why is our “cultural” thing gravitating towards dressing sloppy and being overweight. And don’t say that’s not the case, we are leading the world in obesity rates, and ever heard the term “ugly American”?</p>
<p>"I am leaving right this minute and going out shopping for a cat lady sweat suit "</p>
<p>I could not for the life of me, imagine this cat lady clothing folks are talking about. You mean like THIS?</p>
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<p>I guess that would be cat WOMAN.</p>
<p>I would agree that we all make snap judgements about people depending on what they are doing, how they are dressed, what they say.</p>
<p>However, some of us only hold on to those hastily formed opinions for a few minutes( or less), others for much longer despite contradictory evidence.</p>
<p>I wonder when we have formed a negative opinion about someone because their outward appearance doesn’t suit us, if we correct that opinion when we are given evidence of other positive qualities, or if when meeting someone who is a " Eddie Haskell" type, polite, well groomed, but a real snake in the grass, how long it takes us to find that out?</p>
<p>“So according to your logic when people in other countries dress modestly and well while maintaining their weight throughout their life, its just a “cultural” thing?”</p>
<p>What are you talking about? I was responding to Bay’s description of her experience in Fiji where women cover their upper arms and chest on the street. So she did that as well, which is appropriate, because THAT is a cultural norm. Not to might OBVIOUSLY be offensive.</p>
<p>My “logic” is that there is no such “cultural norm” uniform across the United States. I was not in any way addressing weight. And I pretty much despise terms that cast any group of people broadly in a negative light. I don’t refer to the French in generalizations - because I’ve found those generalizations to be false in almost every cases, Germans, British, etc. So I don’t put much stock in the term “ugly American”. Ugly is as ugly does. I have found that most people overseas are very kind if you are kind, humble, inobtrusive and open-minded. And if someone were to call another an “ugly American” - I would think, “Well. That was an ugly thing to say.” - and I just wouldn’t take it to heart at all - ever hear the expression, “consider the source?”</p>
<p>Shrinkrap,</p>
<p>Nooooo, like this with matching straight leg gray warm up pants, and cheap tennis shoes.</p>
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<p>Excuse me? Were YOU there? Have you worked for a NYC biglaw firm environment or a corporate firm with senior management who tolerate/encourage an environment where they’re free to yell/throw their weight around over relatively minor/non-bearing to you issues just because they happen to be on the higher end of the totem pole? </p>
<p>Sounds like you’ve either led a very charmed professional life or they were of such minor importance to you that they weren’t worth your attention.</p>
<p>meowwwwwww</p>
<p>The reason you don’t understand respecting others feelings when selecting your attire is because you have not given enough thought to why you won’t be wearing your pajamas to your D’s wedding.</p>
<p>Catwomen across the ages.</p>
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<p>Bay,</p>
<p>I’m sure you understand that premise to be a little “out there”. </p>
<p>Of course there is, at times, obviously appropriate or inappropriate dress.</p>
<p>The thread title asks a specific question. It doesn’t ask about wearing pajamas to a wedding.</p>
<p>Geez. </p>
<p>mompop, LOL - meeeeeoooooooowwww!</p>
<p>Shrinkrap - If I looked like Catwoman, I would FIND a place to dress like that sometime! LOL</p>
<p>Eartha Kitt was about 40 when she played that role!
<a href=“http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/News:Catwoman_Eartha_Kitt_dies_at_81[/url]”>http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/News:Catwoman_Eartha_Kitt_dies_at_81</a></p>