<p>is this really what happens at yale? ( the best ivy IMO) I hope this is just a freak injustice.
Throwing</a> the Book at Yale Republicans | National Review Online</p>
<p>Even in the National Review’s biased reporting, it’s clear that the kid in question knowingly violated the rules, and refused to comply even when he was directed to do so. Also, the reporting on what has been done with other organizations is shoddy.</p>
<p>I do think it’s funny that the National Review went to a student named “Lizardo” for a quote.</p>
<p>All colleges (even Yale) are bureaucratic institutions that supply students with a handbook at the beginning of each year about what is, and is not, permissible on campus. If you break a rule, you pay the price, which varies depending upon the infraction. See Yale’s handbook for 2013-2014: <a href=“http://yalecollege.yale.edu/sites/default/files/URegs%2013-14_102413.pdf[/url]”>http://yalecollege.yale.edu/sites/default/files/URegs%2013-14_102413.pdf</a></p>
<p>The issue of the removal of the posters didn’t seem to register at all during or immediately after the election–it isn’t mentioned (as far as I can find) in any of the Yale Daily News articles about the election–including the one written by the kid who put up the posters.
[MALLET:</a> A historic Ward 1 candidacy | Yale Daily News](<a href=“http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2013/11/12/mallet-a-historic-ward-1-candidacy/]MALLET:”>http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2013/11/12/mallet-a-historic-ward-1-candidacy/)</p>
<p>I wonder if “But Mom! Everyone else is doing it!” has always worked for him.</p>
<p>while the predominate mindset on campus is absolutely a liberal one, there are more conservatives here than you’d think. I wouldn’t say people are intolerant of conservatives; dismissive might be a better word. You will definitely find other conservatives here and have some incredible conversations with liberals and conservatives alike. I know I have actually gotten more conservative in my four months here.</p>
<p>litotes, it is not a question of finding conservatives on campus, the issue is with the liberal power structure and liberal privilege on campus. and the use of that power to selectivity punish some students while ignoring and or encouraging those in line with the liberal power/privilege structure.</p>
<p>And there is absolutely no evidence that any of that happened in this case. Reading the story critically, there was one student campaign manager (Mallet) who systematically broke rules he knew existed and ignored repeated official directives to comply. He was disciplined for that, but with a slap on the wrist at most. The other student campaigners made a systematic effort to comply with the rules and to exploit areas where the rules were not as clear (lawn signs), and to do that at the last possible moment so there would be no question of ignoring any cease-and-desist order. That was a more sophisticated strategy, from a more experienced candidate, and it avoided any kind of discipline. The only kind of discrimination I could discern from the facts was discrimination against the relatively stupid – and, yes, that happens a lot at Yale.</p>
<p>There is an implication from the article that, aside from this election, other groups regularly violate the rules with impunity. But there was absolutely no evidence that that happens. For all we know, every time some drama group puts up an unauthorized flyer, a dean calls them up and tells them to take it down. And it isn’t hard to imagine that the scale of leafletting and postering in connection with a political campaign is several orders of magnitude beyond what you would normally have for a play, glee club concert, or other source of violation of these rules.</p>
<p>jhs, I am not so sure that is a correct reading of the situation.</p>
<p>zobroward, you are right not to be sure what I wrote is a correct interpretation. I have no idea what the real facts are. But neither does the National Review. Its article is shot through with innuendo, because the verifiable facts aren’t nearly enough to conclude that the Yale administration is engaging in politically motivated harassment and censorship. Maybe it is – but to me, at least, that seems far-fetched. Maybe it isn’t – as I wrote above, it’s perfectly possible to fit the known facts into a narrative about neutrality and respect for rules. Neither you nor I know, and both of us are reacting out of our (different) prejudices.</p>
<p>Exposing a liberal bias on Yale’s campus is a somewhat futile endeavor, as there are those that will never believe that it’s even remotely possible.</p>
<p>Seeing as the “story” has not had any other traction anywhere else, it appears to have been an initial over-reach by the Natl Review article authors – that’s my impression. No mention of it in the broader Yale or New Haven. Google him. Nothing since the Dec 9 article.</p>
<p>There have always been strident and vocal conservative voices on campus. Quashing that voice has not been an issue at Yale as long as I’ve been associated with it – that’s my recollection, at least. Nothing like the Ray Kelley incident this year at Brown or the Minuteman incident at Columbia in '06.</p>
<p>t26e4,
of course the liberal power / privilege structure is going to ignore the story. they have no problem with suppression or hypocritical omission .and surely you do not expect the yale newspaper to run a critical story about actions that they have no qualms with, and behavior by the administration they stand behind.</p>
<p>Pretty clear what happened here. The rules have not been enforced, but some liberal in power decided to bring the Republican rule breakers to the table. When you break rules, there is always that possiblity, you know. Yes, others are speeding but if YOU are the unlucky one caught, that excuse isn’t going to fly. Everyone is cheating, but yours is the one picked out of the group. When someone is flagged, caught a certain way, then the consequences are there.</p>
<p>My SIL’s nephew is in trouble for having pot in his room which to many involved, it’s a crazy thing since the entire floor smells like the afthermath of a rock concert many evening. But he was unlucky to get caught in some unfortunate way, and now he’s in a lot of trouble. When a transgression report gets so far, it then cannot be ignored, and the system starts cranking.</p>
<p>zobro: I certainly understand some elements may not follow up — but you’re mistaken if you think there is no right of center media interests who would follow up on a good and juicy story. </p>
<p>Even within the YDN.</p>
<p>I don’t ascribe the absence of follow up to be indicative of liberal suprression of the story which is what you seem to imply.</p>
<p>cptofthehouse… wrong analogy…if you get caught cheating at random , so be it but when you are singled out because of who you are…that is something else. and when the people in the good graces and or members of the liberal power structure use arbitrary enforcement of rules to suppress opinions different than the ones they think everyone should have that is really sad. I know yale is a private institution so they are free to have different rules for different people but…I feel sad about the suppression of diversity of opinions by the liberal power structure.</p>
<p>I guess it is "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others ".</p>
<p>“I feel sad about the suppression of diversity of opinions by the liberal power structure.”</p>
<p>I would be too … but I’m not convinced Mr. Chandler’s scenario rises to that level.</p>
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As I pointed out above, the YDN published an article about the election–after the election–by the very student who is being disciplined for putting up these posters. His article says nothing about the posters. There are no comments on the YDN site about them (and if you’ve looked at the site, they do not delete critical comments.)</p>