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<p>"So, if IT has been banned at USMMA, could someone explain why the plebes of DS' company were IT'd not once, but twice, between the hours of 0500 and 1200 on Feb. 20, 2010??? Either IT is permitted or it is not, so what gives???? "</p>

<p>I think you missed my point about IT. Current upperclassmen report on this site that IT has been banned. If that is the case, then why is it still being used? Quite frankly, I don't care if it is allowed or not; I am not a mid, alum, faculty, or staff. If it is allowed, then so be it. However, if it has been banned by the powers that be at KP, then it should not be used by any of the regimental leadership. To do otherwise shows that some of the regimental leadership is overstepping their bounds by disobeying the policy put in place.</p>

<p>Per an interview with Capt Fell, the Commandant of Midshipmen in the most recent edition of the Academy Newspaper “Hear This” on the subject:</p>

<p>"HT: Why are CO’s allowed to IT midshipmen and tell midshipmen to get hair cuts but if a midshipman does either to a fellow midshipman it is considered hazing, abuse, or harassment?</p>

<p>WF: They cannot IT you, not now, not anymore. IT should only be used during indoctrination. Other academies only use IT during their plebe summers. To correct a deficiency, it may not be the best method."</p>

<p>I heard that IT is permissible on Saturday mornings if the situation warrants it and if the case you are refering to is the one I have in mind something REALLY bad happened and the other plebes failed to put a stop to it.</p>

<p>KPMarineopsdad: From a persoanl pespective and it’s only my opinion but IT is dumb, ineefictive and even a counter-productive way to train officers. Further Captain Fell’s answer to the question from Hear This is unambiguoous, and in my opinion the absolute right one. As such I am glad to see IT end at KP and hope it is an all the time, 100% absolute policy switch, I don’t think it helpd young people learn to take real responsibility for their actions and theat’s why I’m more than glad to see it go the way of the other things that end up exticnt as a result of natural evolution.</p>

<p>Im a plebe and this was in my company. Trust me we would rather have IT then get stuck.</p>

<p>SeaKid011: </p>

<p>Re: “I’m a plebe and this was in my company. Trust me we would rather have IT then get stuck.”</p>

<p>I think you are likely making my point even better than I did. Like I said, IT is at best an ineffective and at worst counter-productive training tool for officers. It doesn’t teach you anything nor does it provide clear and meaniungful consequences that allow you to reflect on and learn from poor decisions. Of course it does build bigger shoulders and helps if you are looking to put on a “gun show” like these guys from “the future 51st state”:</p>

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<p>We had the whole weekend to reflect they took away our liberty.</p>

<p>There is no effective policy about IT. The first time anyone heard about Captain Fell saying no IT was in a school newspaper. He never told anyone that would need to know about the policy. </p>

<p>While I do agree it is not the most effective way of correcting a deficiency, the other option is just more worthless. </p>

<p>By sticking people it only brings down morale. Plus people can rack up 300+ demerits a year and somehow still be here. There are people at this school with multiple alcohol violations that manage to not get set back or anything. There are people who go far beyond the demerit limit and they are still allowed to be apart of this school. There are two midshipmen here now who were set back for academics then set back again for disciplinary reasons. </p>

<p>Therefore, why stick anyone? Why give anyone demerits when they mean absolutely nothing. The midshipmen don’t get the support we need from the people we need it from. If the demerit limit were lower and if people were actually kicked out of here for not maintaining a certain standard then maybe things would be better. </p>

<p>The people who do things right here and work hard are not supported. Instead it is the people who don’t belong here because of their actions that get all the help in the world from everyone and do nothing but make my diploma less valuable. All you have to do is look at the latest edition of the Kings Pointer magazine. The Alumni Chairman writes an article basically ostracizing the honor board and the advisor to the honor board, CAPT Bonnadonna. He writes how it is complete crap that people who fall asleep on watch, lie, harass teachers, and miss their ship during sea year are “set back.” He basically just supports midshipmen who do those things which is crap. He should be supporting the people who do the right thing and actually FOLLOW the rules. He should have argued that those people should have been kicked out instead of just getting a Class I.</p>

<p>If the Honor Board recommends dismissal and the decision is overturned by the Administration then the entire honor code is being called into question. I have been told that there are Midshipmen who are STILL there after having been caught cheating on exams more than once.</p>

<p>I don’t know details about the honor board cases in terms of how many times people have been honor board or anything like that. All I know if you are caught cheating on exams, you should not be here. But some how those people get support from higher ups like they have actually done something to be recognized when in fact, they are just making my diploma less valuable.</p>