<p>I asked this already in another thread but think the question got buried. Does anyone know how the Ivy academic index is computed now with the addition of the Writing component on the SAT?</p>
<p>Most schools don't look at the writing component anyway, just go on with the old one.</p>
<p>*Writing is more like a reference for most schools; just get a passable score on it</p>
<p>do a search on the academic index on this site ... the actual formula is referenced a few times on the site.</p>
<p>3togo, can you find that formula. The one I know of is based on the old SAT I and 3 SAT II's . With the writing added to the SAT I, many schools only require 2 SAT II's. I can find no source for an update of the formula in light of the New SAT I</p>
<p>every school i applied to a few years ago said that they did not even look at the writing.</p>
<p>my b is applying this year and said that schools don't use it unless it is terrible. they all seem to use the other two and look at the scores based on the 1600 for the two meaning how close you got to the 1600.</p>
<p>But Columbia is going to look at the writing section starting this year.</p>
<p>how about this ... </p>
<p>3togo, that's the one based on the old SAT as described in Michelle Hernandez's book "A is for Admission". Many Ivys now only require 2 SAT II's and presumably use the SAT Writing in some way.</p>
<p>classicrocker,
It might be best to contact the coach at an Ivy in the sport you are interested in and ask this question. In Oct 2007, the numbers they asked my daughter for were still the variables for the equation above. If there's been a change, the coach will very likely know, or be able to find out. No one cared about her writing score last year. Too bad. It was the best of the three!</p>
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3togo, that's the one based on the old SAT as described in Michelle Hernandez's book "A is for Admission". Many Ivys now only require 2 SAT II's and presumably use the SAT Writing in some way.
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whoops ... I'd guess a hunt on google might turn up the new version.</p>
<p>Since one of the SAT II's that used to be required was writing, you could probably plug in the writing subscore in one of the SAT II slots and compute your score that way. Obviously that assumes that adcoms look at the writing section just as much as the other sections.</p>
<p>Academic</a> Index Calculator - Hernandez College Consulting - Ivy league admission - Ivy league admissions - Ivy league consulting, consultants, consultant - college consulting - college consultants - college consultant this is also a good site</p>
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<p>This is also the old calculator before the New SAT II :-)</p>
<p>Catfish: As far as plugging in the Writing as one of the SAT II's, how do you know they just don't average all three parts of the SAT I to compute the first 80 points, and just average 2 SAT II's to compute the second 80 points. </p>
<p>This is essentially the jist of my question.</p>
<p>I'll say it again: ask the Ivy coach you are most interested in. They will answer you.</p>
<p>I think Classic Rocker Dad is right. As far as I can tell, the AI reduces SAT I scores to a single 20-80 score, SAT Subject Tests to a 20-80 score, and converts class rank to a 20-80 score, then adds the three. If you wanted to calculate in your Writing subscore, I'd try it this way: add up your three SAT subscores and multiply by 2/3 to convert the equivalent out-of-2400 score to an out-of-1600 scale. Then allocate those points between Math and Critical Reading in the same proportion as your M and CR subscores.</p>
<h2>I wrote Dr. Michele Hernandez and was very impressed that she not only responded but responded quickly (like less than an hour). Here are our communications, hope they help:</h2>
<p>My question is about your academic calculator. Interesting but
appears out of date. These days there are 3 components to the SAT I while
most schools including Ivys do not require 3 SAT II. With those points in</p>
<h2>mind, how does one use your calculator? I would have thought you would have updated that information on your site given that these policies have been existed for several years. Would be interested in your input.</h2>
<p>It is not quite out of date -- last year was the first year they took the
writing and even then they did not "count" it, they just looked at it. Even
today, the Ivies have yet to officially update the AI formula and some are
not using the writing score at all! Last year they just didn't use the
writing and this year I don't' think they are either. Once they change the
formula, I will update. As a guideline, the writing score should be similar
to the other scores, so if the average for a schools is 725/730, they will
look for the same average for the writing</p>
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<p>Thank you for the reply but one point was still omitted. How are the three</p>
<h2>SAT II's handled when three SAT are rarely required anymore? Most schools, even Ivy's require two, how do they then fill in three numbers in the formula with only two scores. Thank you.</h2>
<p>They just double one of the scores
Michele</p>
<p>Thanks so much for posting this smoda, and for chasing down this information. Where does Dr. Hernandez work?</p>
<p>Your post is consistent with the numbers my d was asked for during Ivy recruiting over the last year.</p>
<p>Here is the site associated w/ Dr. Hernandez. I used the contact link and asked my question. </p>
<p>Hernandez</a> College Consulting: College Consultants and Ivy League Admission Help</p>
<p>Good to know that what I was told matches your experience with your daughter. </p>
<p>The only thing I don't know is if the two SAT II scores are far apart which number do they double.</p>
<p>If I get the chance to ask my D's next year coach that question, I will. Much of this is still cloaked in mystery.</p>