Ivy Envy: a disease with no known cure

<p>I don't envy the Ivies at all. Even if I applied and was accepted, I would not attend school at any of them. I'd much rather go to a big, fun state school.</p>

<p>Well here one big ten school reigns supreme: ohio state. People practically breathe ohio state here. Going off to the ivys is great and all, but it just can't compare to our own big ten school. Maybe people just have a lot of pride in their alma mater here, but it is held in very high esteem.</p>

<p>It's THE Ohio State University. :p</p>

<p>rooster08</p>

<p>cockadoodledoo!</p>

<p>(see post 18)</p>

<p>i hope i wasn't too close to the mark with that whole barnyard thing, honestly i had no idea, now I feel like I was being insensitive...I was not directly refering to your barnyard prowess.</p>

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Why is it that everyone who goes to or wants to go to the Lesser Five are getting mad at people who say the ivy league isn't all that it's cracked up to be? Some people just expressed their opinions about how the ivy league is nothing to jump up and down about because it's the name of the SCHOOL that matters instead of the league it is in. There's no need to get angry folks.

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<p>Because it's not true. The "Lesser Five" as you all them are just as good and as high quality as HYPSM.</p>

<p>hehe you're right, I feel so ashamed it is THE Ohio State University...except no one ever calls it that and I live right smack dab in Columbus</p>

<p>Is that to make sure it isn't confused with some other Ohio State University?</p>

<p>Nope, they just want to make themselves feel all official</p>

<p>The Lesser Five do not incur the envy of anyone I've known in my life. There are plenty of people who wish they went to HYP and MIT or Stanford (if only because they feel their resume is not impressive enough based on their own accomplishments instead of relying on a namebrand like a crutch). There is no namebrand value to the Lesser Five however. People don't look at a resume with the University of Pennsylvania or Brown University on it and think it is special... many, many people have never heard of these schools (and they are the same people who would be impressed if you could put "Ivy League" on your resume, which you can not). People who know that U of Penn and Brown are good schools are equally impressed by the likes of Rice, Duke, Berkeley, Chicago, Michigan, UVa, UNC, etc.</p>

<p>Celebrian,</p>

<p>I was raised in Ann Arbor, right next to Ohio. Apparently OSU's cache ends at the Ohio border. People at Michigan do not even think of OSU as a safety.
Although, football is another matter.
Hail to the Victors!</p>

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Because it's not true. The "Lesser Five" as you all them are just as good and as high quality as HYPSM.

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<p>There are many good, high quality schools. But you can't say that Dartmouth, Brown, U of Penn., etc. are as good as HYP and then turn around and say that Dartmouth, Brown, U of Penn, etc. are better than Rice, Duke, Berkeley, UVa, Chicago, etc.</p>

<p>Breaking-wind,</p>

<p>are you then saying that Rice Duke Berkeley Mich Uva UNC are somehow lesser schools not worth the name of great schools?
Or,
do you suffer from ivy-envy?
I think anyone who reads your posts can guess:</p>

<p>that's right,
respetyle-dysfunction!
must be contagious.</p>

<p>I think it's pretty obvious you're over your head here. How old are you? At any rate, to be specific, I am saying that Rice, Berkeley, Duke, and the Lesser Five do not have the same "namebrand appeal" that HYP have. However, they are all great schools. It's pretty ridiculous to think that students at Rice and Duke envy students at Brown and the U of Pennsylvania however. Because Brown and Penn have the same struggles that Rice and Duke do in getting the name recognition of HYP.</p>

<p>well I don't really spend time around people who are interested in going to the elite schools even if they could, I mean #2 and #3 from last year both went to Ohio State. The most people to attend an elite school in any one class is 5 out of 350-500 students. Ohio State is getting harder as well...it's now up to a 3.4 avg. gpa</p>

<p>The "Lesser Five" as you all them are just as good and as high quality as HYPSM. </p>

<p>The lesser five carries tremendous prestige in Eastern area, and some of them are extremely prestigious in eyes of graduate students.</p>

<p>For example, Dartmouth Business school of Tuck, UPENN Wharton, Columbia Law school, Cornell engineering/med carry much more weight than Rice or UVA.</p>

<p>Breeze, it's good to promote school that you like, but don't do it at the expenses of other schools. </p>

<p>BTW, I am not a student at the 'Lesser Five'</p>

<p>Hopeman, you are ignoring the schools you don't like. UVa's Darden School and Duke's Fuqua School have a better reputation than Cornell's Johnson School and even Yale's School of Management, for instance. Similarly, UVa's Law School enjoys a better reputation than Penn's Law School or Cornell's Law School. You can't say that the Lesser Five is better quality because of a couple of good schools.</p>

<p>You say I'm promoting schools I like at the expense of others, but you are doing exactly the same thing. You like the Lesser Five, and so put them above Rice, Duke, etc. with no good reason other than you like them.</p>

<p>Breeze,</p>

<p>You seem to be a professional Ivy-basher. What school did you go to? It can’t be so bad that you have decided to bash other schools rather then promote your own.</p>

<p>I don’t know where you are from but where I have lived, east-coast, Midwest everyone I knew had heard of Dartmouth, Brown, coumbia etc.
If you or the people you know haven’t, I think it says more about you and your compadres than it does about the schools.</p>

<p>Who made you into such a know-it-all? You must have been a joy to grow up with.
On the other hand, perhaps this is a disease, the dreaded ivy-envy!</p>

<p>Breeze,
the only time you have something good to say about any particular school it is only to use it to bash another school.</p>

<p>What's with all the anger?
lighten-up.</p>

<p>Go have a cold one and dream of put-downs or something.</p>

<p>Gosh Woodwork, you didn't address a single one of my points. I think they are pretty rational and do not bash any school. In fact, I would even call them polite, though factual. Go back and check, and then see if you can tell me that Brown and the U. of Pennsylania have more value than Rice or Duke on a resume.</p>

<p>I have no idea, do you?</p>

<p>I would suppose to some dgree it would depend on whether or not you were applying for a job in NYC or Huston.</p>

<p>I do not possess your all-knowing mind. I only know what I know, not what all the fortune 500 employers will do.</p>

<p>If you're for real, tell me why Dartmouth and Brown are great schools. Even better in many ways than some of the schools you try to run them down with. Why they are not lesser. Why they deserve to be esteemed because of what they are.
Oh, and without sarcasm.</p>