Ivy schools - What’s the starting SAT scores of their top 800 students?

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<p>This is by Freshman Class Size, I’d like to see where the starting SAT scores of the top 800 students of each schools. (top 800 students is about a half at Harvard or top 25% at Cornell)</p>

<p>Size Reading Math Writing</p>

<p>Size 25-75% 25-75% 25-75%
================================================== ====
1,105 670-780, 690-790, 690-790, Dartmouth
1,300 700-790, 710-800, 700-790, Princeton
1,355 700-800, 710-790, 710-800, Yale
1,391 690-780, 700-790, 690-780, Columbia
1,485 630-740, 650-760, 640-750, Brown
1,661 690-790, 700-800, 690-790, Harvard
2,420 660-750, 690-780, 670-770, U Penn
3,182 630-730, 670-770, - - - - -, Cornell </p>

<p>I think someone will calculate this. If no one has time to do that I will post the numbers some other day.</p>

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<p>This is by Freshman Class Size, I’d like to see where the starting SAT scores of the top 800 students of each schools. (top 800 students is about a half at Harvard or top 25% at Cornell)</p>

<p>Class Reading Math Writing
Size 25-75% 25-75% 25-75%
================================================== ====
1,105 670-780, 690-790, 690-790, Dartmouth
1,300 700-790, 710-800, 700-790, Princeton
1,355 700-800, 710-790, 710-800, Yale
1,391 690-780, 700-790, 690-780, Columbia
1,485 630-740, 650-760, 640-750, Brown
1,661 690-790, 700-800, 690-790, Harvard
2,420 660-750, 690-780, 670-770, U Penn
3,182 630-730, 670-770, - - - - -, Cornell </p>

<p>This will give us a picture of how strong the student body of each schools are.</p>

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<p>dude… sometimes sats aren’t everything…</p>

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<p>Hmmm, do you mean you already have the numbers? If you do that’s great, post it. Otherwise I will post in a couple of days to see if anyone researched top school stats enough. They can add other schools they are interested in as well.</p>

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<p>Out of curiosity, why do you want to use the 25%-75% percentiles to estimate the average SAT scores of the top 800 students at each school?</p>

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<p>Unless the university releases the mean SAT score, I don’t think the information is available to answer the question. I do suspect, however, the average SAT score is heavily skewed right under the 25% mark.</p>

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<p>I guess it would answer a question of whether Cornell’s top 800 students are equivalent to Harvard’s top 800 students (or how close they are).</p>

<p>Not sure what we’d do with that. One can get a good education at any of these schools. Prestige and reputation are what they are and have relatively little to do with education when considering schools at this level.</p>

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<p>

and the answer to that question is probably they are very close … and that is also true of the top 800 students at UVA, UMich, and a bunch of other schools also.</p>

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<p>So, for fun… (sort by R+M since Cornell doesn’t require Writing. you can sort it for R+M+W yourself)</p>

<p>Reading Math R+M Writing R+M+W
735.50 765.50 1500.99 Penn 753.88 2254.88
729.72 769.72 1499.43 Cornell<br>
743.67 753.67 1497.35 Harvard 743.67 2241.02
731.92 735.54 1467.45 Yale 738.73 2206.18
724.23 734.23 1458.46 Princeton 724.23 2182.69
721.48 731.48 1452.96 Columbia 721.48 2174.43
676.48 696.48 1372.96 Brown 686.48 2059.44
675.72 695.20 1370.93 Dartmouth 695.20 2066.13</p>

<p>This is by figuring out the percentile of the #800 in each freshman class size, and for each SAT subjects calculate the SAT score of that percentile. (you can convert them to be in tenth)</p>

<p>Schools with freshman class size bigger than 3200 shouldn’t be calculated mathematically for top 800 because their top 800 is outside of 25-75 percentiles where no data is available. (use a larger number, i.e. 1,200 if this is in 25-75, and compare schools use the same number of top students)</p>

<p>This is not exact, just to give a picture. </p>

<p>For what the 25/75 percentile mean:
[What</a> Do SAT Score Percentiles Mean? - An Explanation of What SAT Scores Mean in College Profiles](<a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/sat-score-explanation.htm]What”>An Explanation of 25th / 75th Percentile SAT Scores)</p>

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<p>So, for fun… (sort by R+M since Cornell doesn’t require Writing. you can sort it for R+M+W yourself)</p>

<h1> Reading Math R+M ------------------------Writing R+M+W</h1>

<p>735.50 765.50 1500.99 Penn ---------------753.88 2254.88
729.72 769.72 1499.43 Cornell
743.67 753.67 1497.35 Harvard -----------743.67 2241.02
731.92 735.54 1467.45 Yale ---------------738.73 2206.18
724.23 734.23 1458.46 Princeton ---------724.23 2182.69
721.48 731.48 1452.96 Columbia --------- 721.48 2174.43
676.48 696.48 1372.96 Brown -------------686.48 2059.44
675.72 695.20 1370.93 Dartmouth --------695.20 2066.13</p>

<p>This is by figuring out the percentile of the #800 in each freshman class size, and for each SAT subjects calculate the SAT score of that percentile. (you can convert them to be in tenth)</p>

<p>Schools with freshman class size bigger than 3200 shouldn’t be calculated mathematically for top 800 because their top 800 is outside of 25-75 percentiles where no data is available. (use a larger number, i.e. 1,200 if this is in 25-75, and compare schools use the same number of top students)</p>

<p>This is not exact, just to give a picture.</p>

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<p>Your numbers for Brown’s 25-75% are way low. They are 660 - 760 CR, 660 - 770 M, 670 - 780 W.</p>

<p><a href=“Office of Institutional Research | Brown University”>Office of Institutional Research | Brown University;

<p>BTW, what your point? There is no dispute as to which Ivy has the least talented students.</p>

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<p>I think the more enlightening question would be how many students with those same SAT scores got rejected. Not even a 2400 can guarantee you a spot in the Ivy League. Holistic admissions, I’m sure you’ve heard it all before haha. </p>

<p>Sent from my XT907 using CC</p>

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<p>Those official numbers are from 2011-2012 data because all schools are not have 2012-2013 posted online.</p>

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<p>You’re still wrong about Brown for 2011-12:</p>

<p>CR 660 - 750, M 680 - 770, W 670 - 770</p>

<p><a href=“Office of Institutional Research | Brown University”>Office of Institutional Research | Brown University;

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<p>For what it’s worth, I suspect this may be the source of the OP’s data:</p>

<p>[Ivy</a> League SAT Scores - Compare SAT Scores for Ivy League Schools](<a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/sat_side_x_side.htm]Ivy”>Ivy League SAT Score Comparison for Admission)</p>

<p>It’s at least consistent with the numbers above.</p>

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<p>eetorjan’s link has the data I used. I checked Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, and Princeton before I posted and they are correct (match 2011-2012 data these universities posted online). Brown, Columbia, and Yale’s were hidden (or at least hard to find by search from their official website)</p>

<p>After taking Brown’s 2011-2012 official data from the link rhg3rd posted, the recalculation shows:</p>

<h1>Reading Math R+M -------------------------Writing R+M+W</h1>

<p>735.50 765.50 1500.99 Penn -------------- 753.88 2254.88
729.72 769.72 1499.43 Cornell<br>
743.67 753.67 1497.35 Harvard----------- 743.67 2241.02
731.92 735.54 1467.45 Yale --------------- 738.73 2206.18
724.23 734.23 1458.46 Princeton -----------724.23 2182.69
721.48 731.48 1452.96 Columbia -----------721.48 2174.43
698.03 718.03 1416.06 Brown ------------- 712.26 2128.32
675.72 695.20 1370.93 Dartmouth -------- 695.20 2066.13</p>

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<p>I will post other top universities’ when I can (those that I can find official data online). Hope this will help applicants to get a picture of the student body of these schools.</p>

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<p>I think Penn students and applicants deserve to know…</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/1493097-ivy-schools-what-s-starting-sat-scores-their-top-800-students.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/1493097-ivy-schools-what-s-starting-sat-scores-their-top-800-students.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Every Ivy League schools have their own strength.</p>

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<p>SAT’s a pretty terrible test, so it doesn’t say much as far as actual know-how and skill.</p>

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<p>And the SAT and Act and most tests only show memorization capability not proper learning, development, or intellectual capacity or maturity.</p>