Ivy to Ivy

<p>Do students from Ivy Leagues have a greater chance of being admitted by other Ivies in transfers? For example, UPenn to Yale or Columbia to Harvard... Does where you went for your first year play a really big part in admission as a transfer student?</p>

<p>Why do you want to transfer from one Ivy to another?</p>

<p>Depends if the two schools are similar or different.</p>

<p>If they are similar, you may have a harder time articulating reasons for the transfer. Just communicate why the transfer would be beneficial.</p>

<p>Grades at your school are important, more so than where you are for your first year. The expectation is that if you are doing well at one Ivy, you will probably be able to handle the work at another one. If you are not doing so hot at your current school, then the opposite is true.</p>

<p>In anycase, make sure that you have solid reasons for the transfer.</p>

<p>Actually, it's not only an advantage, but basically an unspoken requirement that one needs to come from another Ivy or equally prestigious school to transfer into H and Y. For example, out of about 50 fall transfers to Harvard this year, </p>

<p>About 10 transferred from another Ivy.
Others came from top-ranked universities and LACs like Tufts, Colgate, Middlebury etc. </p>

<p>Only a small minority came from state schools- and even then, they were particularly good ones like the UCLA and SUNY Stony Brook.</p>

<p>Obviously, don't expect to get in just because you are at such and such school; having a 3.00 GPA at Cornell won't get you into Yale.</p>

<p>If there are 8 Ivies, then....</p>

<p>10 transfers, from 7 schools, places it on par with other schools like Tufts, Middlebury, Colgate, etc....rather than above them.</p>

<p>10 acceptances for 7 Ivies is not much different statistically than for other schools that had a transfer kid accepted. Also, transfer applications are more self-selective with respect to whether to apply or not. You have to treat every school as a separate entity, and not selectively group. If that were the case, you would also be able to change the outcome by picking 8 top liberal arts colleges and place them together for comparison--depending on what you want the outcome to show.</p>

<p>It is not an unspoken requirement...nor is it statistically correct to assert that it is...unless one Ivy had the majority of transfer acceptances, and no other non-Ivy school had more that a couple of transfers.</p>

<p>BTW, SUNY-Stony Brook is not that prestigious.</p>

<p>i didnt apply to harvard</p>

<p>i did apply as a transfer from an ivy to a few other ivies, and didnt get into one, even though my stats were extremely competitive, i got into a whole slew of non-ivies, go figure. I got waitlisted at a few of those ivies though, but not accepted.</p>

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<p>Well no, I don't believe that the Ivies are necessarily 'above' schools like Middlebury and Tufts et al. (Both damn fine schools for that matter) However, considering the number of institutions of higher education in the country, I'd say that if 1/5 of students who were accepted came from 7 schools, that's pretty damn impressive. </p>

<p>My comments were really geared towards the OP's second questions, "Does where you went for your first year play a really big part in admission as a transfer student?" I'd argue that it does, at least for schools like Harvard and Yale. From firsthand knowledge, I'd say those who transfer in from top private schools (including other Ivies) are definitely the majority. I think there is no statistical advantage of say coming from Columbia instead of U Chicago; however, someone transferring from another Ivy to say Yale will definitely fare better than someone from the local flagship state university or lesser-known private institution. I'd say that the transfer class to Harvard this year came mostly from top-20 universities and top 15-20 LACs. Very few exceptions.</p>

<p>Wind:</p>

<p>Where did you get that data?</p>

<p>I'd argue that it is less important to come from the top schools than it is to make the most of your college performance, in say a top 50 school like UWisconsin-Madison, CWRU, etc...</p>

<p>I think there are good number of exceptions, since I'm sure that Tufts, Bates, Macalester, and the like are represented in the Ivy transfer pool of acceptances.</p>

<p>If there is data that undermines that belief, I'd like to know, as I defered for a year at an Ivy. I also have friends that have transfered successfully from schools outside the Top-20, Top-50, and moved from CCs to Ivy League schools, so I'm very curious about the quantitative data set and the source.</p>

<p>First of all, just to apologize, I was cutting and pasting my response from a word processor- please ignore the first paragraph from Post 7, that's not meant to be there. </p>

<p>Isleboy, I'll shoot you a PM later...sorry, got a bit of work to catch up with.</p>

<p>k...no problem.</p>

<p>I had a 3.4 at Columbia and got into Brown, Dartmouth, and Duke and was waitlisted at Harvard. I think applying from another Ivy helped, but the fact that I was a top student in high school was also critical to my doing well. In my Dartmouth transfer class, a great majority were from top 25 schools including a few Ivy transfers.</p>