Ivy Undergrad Ranking by Yale Law

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<p>Both!</p>

<p>The diff isn’t that large between Princeton and Yale, but there is definitely an impact from grade deflation.</p>

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<p>German car - I note you did not answer my other post questioning your meaningless and excessively gratuitous interest in tiny admissions issues between and among Ivy League schools. In that previous post, I averred that your “body of work” reflects an overly credentialed mindset that focuses on points that are largely irrelevant to what counts no matter where one goes to school - namely, mental toughness, unyielding drive, dedication, and a sense of humility.<br>
I also mentioned that your posts reflect an effete and frankly wimpy mindset that tracks credentials but gives little weight to character and work ethic. I note (not surprisingly) that you did not answer my initial post. Query whether you will do so now.</p>

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<p>admit rate of Princeotn UG for Yale law is about 15%
admit rate of Yale UG for Yale Law is about 22%</p>

<p>Obviously Yale UG applicant has 50% higher chance of getting into Yale Law…
and the 50% difference is HUGE.</p>

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<p>german car, thanks for pointing out that if 40 applications are made to Yale Law School by each of Princeton and Yale, 6 students will get in from Princeton and 9 students will get in from Yale. The difference could easily be explained by the “home school” advantage for Yale.</p>

<p>so, based on the above, there is no significant difference between Yale and Princeton.</p>

<p>thanks again for playing.</p>

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<p>That is exactly my point. Harvard Yale Stanford Columbia UG all get home school advantage when applying for their graduate programs.</p>

<p>Princeton UG need really excellent test scores and GPA in the grade deflated school.</p>

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<p>Who cares? Statistics don’t mean anything. It doesn’t matter if it’s .0001% if you’re that one in a million.</p>

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<p>It is not about statistics. It is about admission policies of graduate schools, which
prefers their UG applicant … significantly.</p>

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<p>At the end of the day Princeton students received a world-class undergraduate education at Princeton University and you, German_Car, did not.</p>

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<p>After the end of world-class undergraduate education, you will get third-class or no graduate education.</p>

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<p>Friends and accepted students, there is no dealing with this poster who refuses to use even common sense. Princeton students are accepted into all of the top graduate and professional schools in the country. If you have any concerns about what this poster is writing (check out his posting history), PM me.</p>

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<p>Yes, prospects are oh so bleak coming out of Princeton.</p>

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<p>Only small portions of Princeton UG are at top grad school. P grads need much higher qualification than Yale UG do, in order to get admitted to Yale Law Med PhD MBA programs. At Harvard Stanford Columbia grad/professional program, the first priority will always be given to their own UG applicants. They always make sure that their UG are the most represented.</p>

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<p>germancar, its been 7 years since you got rejected from Princeton</p>

<p>did it really hurt that much that you are still attacking that great Institution?</p>

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<p>Which one is great ?</p>

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<p>@german_car:</p>

<p>Jian Li, that you?</p>

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<p>@ Ptongrad2000… As you suggested, I tried to PM you, but your mailbox is full</p>

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<p>I’m sure German_Car must be disappointed to see that one of the names at the top of the current list of possible nominees for the upcoming vacancy on the U.S. Supreme Court is Elena Kagan (Princeton '81).</p>

<p>[Elena</a> Kagan Emerging As Supreme Court Front-Runner](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>Elena Kagan Emerging As Supreme Court Front-Runner | HuffPost Latest News)</p>

<p>Currently the U.S. Solicitor General, Elena Kagan '81 graduated summa cum laude from Princeton, took a masters degree at Oxford and then graduated from Harvard Law School. Kagan was Dean of Harvard Law School prior to becoming the nation’s first female Solicitor General.</p>

<p>Others may remember that the newest U.S. Supreme Court Justice is also a Princeton graduate, Justice Sotomayor '76. If Solicitor General Kagan is nominated and confirmed, she will be the 12th Supreme Court Justice who received an undergraduate degree from Princeton and the University will have three undergraduate alumni as sitting Justices on the Supreme Court. Currently Princeton and Stanford have the greatest undergraduate representation on the court with two Justices each.</p>

<p>Princeton has graduated more U.S. Supreme Court Justices than any other undergraduate institution in U.S. history. The second leading institutions are Harvard College and Yale College each of which has graduated ten even while both schools are substantially larger. </p>

<p>The last two Princeton Supreme Court Justices both had law degrees from Yale. The next, if it is Kagan, would have a law degree from Harvard (my law school alma mater).</p>

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<p>"Professor Charles Fried, a Reagan administration solicitor general, also said that he’d support a Kagan pick.</p>

<p>‘She is a supremely intelligent person, really one of the most intelligent people I have encountered, and I have met a lot of them, as one does in this business. She is very adroit politically," said Fried. "She has quite a strong personality and a winning personality. I think she’s an effective, powerful person and a very, very intelligent person, and a very hardworking and serious person…’"</p>

<p>Supremely, really, very, quite, very, very, very. Intelligent, intelligent, strong, powerful, hardworking, serious… what’s with all these empty adverbs and adjectives?</p>

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<p>Every school has someone famous !
GPA of 3.4 at Princeton is much harder than 3.6 at Yale College.<br>
But Yale College applicants are much likely to be admitted to Yale Law. </p>

<p>Evern 3.5 from Yale College is much more preferred than 3.7 from Princeton.</p>

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<p>OK, so Obama has to stop the madness and appoint Diane Wood. A temporary moratorium on HYPS at the High Court. It’s not that Harvard and Yale aren’t great law schools, but there are great judges and lawyers who went to other law schools, too.</p>