<p>Hello. How are the job opportunities for foreign EU-citizen students who have graduated an Ivy League undergrad program? More specifically, Harvard.
I am aware of the "Perspective after.." thread and how it states that the future is dire, if you are foreign students. That's community college though.
How's the situation if you graduate from Ivy League with flying colors and have EU citizenship?</p>
<p>“More specifically, Harvard”</p>
<p>The career placement office at Harvard would be the best place to find the answer to this question. Drop them an email, and ask.</p>
<p>As far as I know, EU citizens don’t have any particular advantage over citizens from other countries as far immigration/naturalization or work permits in the US are concerned.</p>
<p>Yes, that’s pretty obvious. It’s supposedly a disadvantage, my question is, how big or small is that disadvantage in the circumstances I described?</p>
<p>You still need a work visa, which includes sponsorship by your prospective employer. As a Harvard grad you may be an interesting candidate, but you’ll also likely face competition from other Ivy and/or Ivy-caliber grads. Grads who don’t require the paperwork hassle that you would. So it all depends on the employer, on the job on the position. In other words - Harvard will give you an edge. But won’t necessarily solve your visa issue.</p>
<p>The job market is terrible regardless whether you are international or American … however you should still give it a try, maybe start with an internship while you are within OPT … there are plenty of international student who have beaten American competition and found a job</p>
<p>do you speak any language that is in demand? that might be a big plus depending on the field you are going. Harvard helps but it’s no guarantee.</p>
<p>@Zerolife</p>
<p>I speak Danish, English, German, Persian(can read and write arabic font as well), Swedish, Norwegian, I’m also practicing some French. Learning new languages is natural to me.</p>
<p>I have a solution plan for me and for you. Get married an american woman!!</p>
<p>Interesting proposal. What about when we want to get rid of her after we are naturalized? We’ll probably be quite well off and she will suck us dry. Unless we marry a woman with a similar ambition level or a rich girl.</p>
<p>I think that if you divorce, you will remain a USA citizen. As far as I think this is not the right solution.</p>
<p>You want to find real love? That’s gonna be difficult with the time-consuming career and a handicap. She will probably also want children sooner or later.</p>
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You don’t even need to wait to get naturalized. Once you have been a permanent resident for two years, you can divorce your partner and keep your permanent resident status. Not sure why I know that…</p>
<p>Go back to your country. We don’t need people like you.</p>
<p>Cool it, Coolweather. First of all, I was just making a theoretical hypothesis. No need to get personal.
Second of all, people in the upper echelons of American business life are the poster boys of immoral behavior. It’s pretty lame to go for the “We don’t need people like you” argument.</p>
<p>In Danish schools(where I grew up), all the way up including high school, morality and responsible behavior are rated equal to grades and achievement, you don’t have to give me the moral axe.</p>
<p>I don’t get personal with an on-line anonymous. As a naturalized American citizen, I want to tell the rest of the world that if you want to be a US citizen you must have the desire to live and contribute to to this country. I don’t see any point in your theoretical hypothesis. Furthermore, if person with “morality and responsible behavior are rated equal to grades and achievement” would not have such hypothesis. I have worked with many Danish people they are very decent.</p>
<p>I don’t desire to get in a deep discussion with you. You are obviously a bit upset.
You are a parent with kid(s) in college. Writing “We don’t need people like you here. Go back to your country.” to young people on the internet is quite immature and slightly ignorant. Your view of the world is also a bit naive(quite funny when you are the experienced adult in this discussion), I wish the world worked the way you suggest, but unfortunately it doesn’t.</p>
<p>Of course the US does not need highly educated ambitious young immigrants. What the US needs is cheap labor. Hence why I propose to restrict all immigration privileges to people who crossed the border illegally 20+ years ago. That should result in a constant stream of undocumented immigrants who will each provide cheap labor for 20 years to come.</p>
<p>Joking aside, the easiest way to obtain permanent resident status is to marry an American citizen. More than a million people obtain permanent residency each year, and only about 100,000 of them get it through employment. There are strictly enforced numerical caps on the number of work visas (and hence employment-based immigration petitions), but no caps on the number of family-based immigration petitions. This does send a clear message: if you want to come to the US, don’t bother getting a college degree. Just marry an American citizen.</p>
<p>You are right. I am not just upset. I also despise people who have this kind of mentality.
I may forgive uneducated kids who may have this mentality, but I cannot ignore someone thinking about Harvard and other top US colleges. People with this kind of attitude will hurt a lot of international students.</p>
<p>Furthermore you think “people in the upper echelons of American business life are the poster boys of immoral behavior.” Well, both the US and Denmark have this kind of people and it seems that you want to be one of them. Both countries don’t want this kind of people.</p>
<p>@Barium
That makes sense, since uneducated people usually work cheaply and they also marry and divorce more frequently than educated people. That law is an advantage for them.
It’s all a cheap labour scheme hehe.</p>
<p>@coolweather</p>
<p>I think you are way out of line here.
This is not the appropriate thread to make a moral crusade. Save that for your own kids.
It’s completely fine that you have a different opinion on life, but you just seem hateful and bitter.
No one is forcing you to have a relationship with people like me. Stay away and save yourself a lot of frustration and increased blood pressure.</p>
<p>You go away, not me. I will stay here to defend the dignity of the American college system, to help decent international students to have better chance to study in the US, and to honor US immigrants.</p>