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<p>good one, tiff90</p>
<p>He was funny at first, but now he is getting an ego and actually thinks he’s intelligent, not the paid clown that he is. </p>
<p>Colbert, who I use to think was funny is going down the same road. Interestingly enough, when Colbert does interviews and appearances, he lists himself as a “Political Satirist” - and not a comedian, which is what he is.</p>
<p>^ The two are not mutually exclusive, Bigeast.</p>
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<p>That’s the point. He’s poking fun at both politics and the media that covers them simultaneously. If you’d actually watch his show to back up your claims about it, you’d see that plenty of times, he jokes about newscasters as much as he does about politicians.</p>
<p>Plus, as stated before, it’s on COMEDY Central. As in, you shouldn’t take it seriously.</p>
<p>Jon Leibowitz (i.e. his real name) is a freakin’ moron.</p>
<p>Most people who don’t like Jon Stewart are conservatives, as they correctly assume he pushes a liberal agenda. While he mocks politicians and members of the news media of all stripes, his liberal slant on most issues is obvious.</p>
<p>His political views seem to be what rub tiff90 the wrong way. She is clearly conservative as her example with Scalia and her definition of the silent majority indicate. Although the “silent majority” was a phrase coined by Nixon to defend his policies in Viet Nam. It has now come to be defined as: “any group of people who are not outspoken and who are considered to constitute a majority” or “a presumed moderate majority of the citizens who are too passive to make their views known”.</p>
<p>Tiff’s distaste for Jon Stewart’s humor has nothing to do with his lack of intelligence (he is very intelligent), it just that it bothers her that a lot of people, especially young people, find his conservative-bashing funny and think he makes a lot of good points.</p>
<p>“Saying the Tea Party is a relative minority isn’t a claim that needs a detailed statistical report, it’s fairly obvious”</p>
<p>Why are they winning primaries by large amounts if the movement is so small?</p>
<p>“Your views are irrational and you’re making a fuss about a comedian as if he were attempting to preach about his political views. A rally to restore sanity is completely the opposite of proselytizing, it is reconnecting people who aren’t extremists to the political process which has been so obscured to the newer generation.”</p>
<p>No, having a protest about nothing is not a step in “restoring sanity.” That is completely irrational. And, you are making big statements with no evidence, whatsoever. I gaurentee that moderates do not go to protests. That would make no sense. People who care passionately about a topic/issue/idea are politically active beyond voting. Plus, if he wants to claim liberals are the silent majority, it is a complete oxymoron to expect the silent majority to show up to a protest. The definition of the SM is quite supporters of beliefs who do not publicize their views, but vote consistently. Therefore, your statements are the ones that are inconsistent, hypocritical and irrational. Then again, some people think that calling something irrational makes it irrational, without providing any logical backing for that statement. That is the tactic you are employing: labeling something without proof and proceeding to believe that label is factual. Quite pathetic.</p>
<p>“And just to add, putting stock in an IQ test is pretty silly. Just because something isn’t on it, doesn’t mean that intelligence plays no role in it. Being cogent with writing is often a clear indicator of intelligence.”</p>
<p>Can you name any legitimate standarized test that puts stock in writing? We all know the writing SAT and LSAT are not held as important. We are not talking about writing style, we are talking about one or two sentences that are grammatically incorrect because I was half drunk. I hardly think mistyping is related at all to my intelligence, especially since my IQ is in the 99th percentile, and my writing sample on the SAT (which doesn’t really count for anything in terms of admission, but for your argument it counts) was in the 98th percentile. My grades indicate my writing is quite above average, and constantly in the top of my classes. Also, if writing style is so important, in your opinion, why is it not tested in a university setting in a test format? In class essays are not graded on grammar or sentence construction, but rather the ideas they share. I think IQ tests are the most accepted form of measuring intelligence, and every widely accepted measurement is in a test format, that does not test writing. Obviously scientists do not put much weight in grammar. And please keep in mind this is an internet forum, hardly the place to care extensively about stylistics or even beyond basic grammar. It is pretty sad that you want to focus on a typo, then again if that is all you can effectively attack, more power to you.</p>
<p>If your IQ is in the 99th percentile, I am Einstein.</p>
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<p>“Why are they winning primaries by large amounts if the movement is so small?”
Because they’re appearing angry and what do conservatives like more than anger?</p>
<p>It’s not a protest, it’s a rally. Just because you put a lot of words about logic in order, doesn’t mean you’re using them correctly or in any sense that actually follows deductive reasoning.</p>
<p>And agreeing with the above poster, there is absolutely no way you have a 99th percentile IQ. Just so you know, taking a five question test on the internet in which you have to also google all the answers does not make you a genius. Your arguments have been effectively “attacked”, you’re just blind on irrationality.</p>
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Not always the case. They are sometimes graded on both, depending on the professor.</p>
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Please explain this further. Obviously many standardized intelligence tests are not based on language, because this varies between cultures/regions. Still, a native English speaker at the college level should have a proper command of the English language.</p>
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Really? This would put your IQ at at least 140. Did you determine this IQ from an actual (non-online) IQ test or are you simply extrapolating from SAT scores?</p>
<p>He’s funny. </p>
<p>If you think he’s a source for unbiased and factual news, I have a bridge in Alaska I’d like to sell you. </p>
<p>He and Colbert are the television versions of the Onion. But much, much funnier ;). </p>
<p>And, guess what? Don’t like him? Turn him off.
It’s really quite simple, especially for someone as supremely intelligent as yourself ;).</p>
<p>Oh and it’s not just us idiot youngsters that like him. My father and grandfather find him hilarious.</p>
<p>I think it’s sad that the media have become such useless echochambers that Stewart and Colbert ARE used as legitimate news sources. That’s really telling actually, and not in a good way.</p>
<p>I think OP needs to…just accept the fact that not everyone shares his opinions on everything including Stewart and Colbert who just does nothing but parodies news shows and talk shows. It’s COMEDY for gods sake, stop making such a fuss about it.</p>
<p>so what if “young people” like me take his news seriously (i don’t- i’m just saying)?! who cares. let them think what they want. the important thing is for you to stick to your own beliefs and stop trying to convince people otherwise of their own beliefs.</p>
<p>i find stewart and colbert both to be incredibly funny yet intelligent. and yes, they are liberal and conservative (on their respective shows)- THAT’S THE POINT- to be incredibly ridiculous, cause it’s NOT a serious source of news.</p>
<p>“Really? This would put your IQ at at least 140. Did you determine this IQ from an actual (non-online) IQ test or are you simply extrapolating from SAT scores?”</p>
<p>I took a proctored IQ test in first or second grade, after I was identified as “gifted.” The earlier you test, the more accurate the test, which is a reason why they test so young. Actually on the SAT I was in the 97th and 98th percentile. PSSAs and IOWAs(PA standarized tests) 99th percentile throughout the years, but those are a joke.</p>
<p>“Not always the case. They are sometimes graded on both, depending on the professor.”</p>
<p>I found it funny that my English classes that had in class essays never took into account grammar, but focused on the ideas. Th HSTY and Poli Sci department are the same way. As is the econ department. Maybe it’s just my school, but the AP tests and HS exams were the same way as well. Grammar is not a big deal for in class writing in my experience.</p>
<p>“I think OP needs to shut the hell up and just accept the fact that not everyone shares his opinions on everything including Stewart and Colbert who just does nothing but parodies news shows and talk shows.”</p>
<p>Hahahahaha who is the angry one now?Sounds like you’re the one bitter because people don’t agree with you. The thing is, Stewart and Colbert are high school humor. Neither show is intelligent, Colbert is just a bunch of nonsense (I read I am America is HS, it was funny, but mostly because it was about more than politics). The problem I have is people thinking it’s high level or a good source for news. Those beliefs feed into the rampant ignorance young people have. It is sad how few poli sci and hsty majors at my school read the news. They buy into the propaganda on CNN and MSNBC (the conservatives I know don’t watch Fox, because it is a NEO CON station, not a conservative station) and think it isn’t all spin. Then they think guys like Stewart are above that, because they are exposing the “Truth,” when in fact they are using spin just like everyone else. Stewart really believes he gets it more than everyone else, and people buy into it. I really don’t understand how fabricating news is funny, because it is actually a serious problem in society. If he wants to restore sanity, he should start being fair. Otherwise he is just adding to the ignorance most young people have.</p>
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<p>Irony.
This statement has it.</p>
<p>“Because they’re appearing angry and what do conservatives like more than anger?”</p>
<p>What do liberals like more than anger? Weren’t they the ones fuming during the elections? Oh wait, both sides are angry. </p>
<p>“And agreeing with the above poster, there is absolutely no way you have a 99th percentile IQ. Just so you know, taking a five question test on the internet in which you have to also google all the answers does not make you a genius. Your arguments have been effectively “attacked”, you’re just blind on irrationality.”</p>
<p>HAHAHAHA you’re basing that off of an impersonal online forum? That’s pretty unintelligent of you. Honestly, send me your address. I have a proctored IQ test from grade school, and I still have the results. I would be all too pleased to send them to you. And no, my arguments have not been proven to be irrational by any degree. You are inserting your personal biases because you want to agree with a certain viewpoint. That type of bias prevents you from being fair. You have not proven A SINGLE THING. Instead, you just want to resort to labeling something without proof. It’s funny that everytime I adquetely challenge people on here, they resort to name calling and labeling, because they realize they can offer no support for incorrect and irrational assumptions that are weighed down in their own biases. </p>
<p>Wikipedia, please.
You obviously missed my point: a person stated that his protest was rational, and it clearly is not. I assume those links support my position, because pretending a silent majority would show up to a protest is quite comical and satirical.</p>
<p>No romanw/e, the comment I was commenting on is ironic.</p>
<p>Let me walk you through it.</p>
<p>Person a said I needed to stop making a big deal because people disagreed. </p>
<p>Person a ensued to use profanity and a hostile tone to convey an opposing point.</p>
<p>The irony is that they are using the same tactics they are criticizing. </p>
<p>Calling out an irony is not ironic. </p>
<p>Your lack of understanding is not surprising. You obviously have a thing against my posts, so you pretend fallacies exist to make yourself more intelligent, or humorous, or whatever makes you feel better. It’s sad you need to do that to gain self esteem. </p>
<p>You may want to take ENGL 101 for further explanation.</p>
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<p>disregarding obvious grammatical error…</p>
<p>Meh, I used to watch Jon Stewart when nothing was on television in the evening. It’s not that big of a deal. It’s just satirical entertainment. I think most politics are a joke anyway.</p>
<p>I don’t really know many people who use it as a source. Most kids I know use newspapers, magazines, and online blog sites to get the news – not Comedy Central.</p>