June 2009 ACT English Discussion

<p>are u guys sure about the hyphen being ok cuz this is like or identical to the sentence on the test:</p>

<p>I enjoyed all the scenery(—riding not on a bike, but on a luigi.)</p>

<p>shouldnt there b no punctuation there at all. I can see the hyphen serving a purpose, though minimally; however, the comma between bike and but has no real function at all.</p>

<p>The ‘whom’ question had no noun for what ‘whom’ was referring to…but I put ‘whom’ anyway cause it made sense. </p>

<p>I remember it said something about ‘blah blah of whom blah blah blah.’</p>

<p>what was the answer with the names</p>

<p>i thought it would be… blah blah blah, name, blah blah</p>

<p>but there was only a choice with blah blah blah name, blah blah</p>

<p>how should you put in the commas?</p>

<p>One who/whom questions was in the subway passage.</p>

<p>It was something like this:
Blah Blah Blah Passengers, many of them were skeptical blah blah.</p>

<p>I just remember that it wouldn’t have made sense to keep “them” in there because there was another noun in the sentence and it made it confusing to use that pronoun because it could have referred to either. The correct answer would be “whom” because it comes after a prepositon, substituting for “them.”</p>

<p>@mchammer</p>

<p>Agreed</p>

<p>and the other one (though blah blah blah, who had known…)</p>

<p>I think?</p>

<p>im really not sure i thought the name would have been sandwiched between two commas?? but that wasnt an answer choice</p>

<p>can anyone explain what the correct answer would be…</p>

<p>Through my parents, who had known blah blah. . . </p>

<p>That one should be who because you would say “They had known” instead of “Them had known”</p>

<p>I think. =]</p>

<p>On the name one:
The engineer Soandso Mcsoandso planned the blah. (the sentence isn’t the right one, but I don’t think it requires any commas because the name of the engineer is necessary to know which engineer planned it.)</p>

<p>ok hopefully u r correct mchammer :)</p>

<p>Yea, the engineer one did not need a comma</p>

<p>@MChammer</p>

<p>Through my parents, who had known blah blah. . .</p>

<p>That one should be who because you would say “They had known” instead of “Them had known”</p>

<p>Can you explain??</p>

<p>Since parents is the subject of the sentence, it would call for you to use who.</p>

<p>Just think of it this way:</p>

<p>You would use who when you would use he, they, she, etc.
You would use whom when you would use him, them, her, etc.</p>

<p>I probably do a terrible job of explaining things. Sorry!</p>

<p>@mch</p>

<p>I get it</p>

<p>Who corresponds the the subject (he, she, they are all subjects)</p>

<p>Whom corresponds to objects (him, her, them, are all objects)</p>

<p>Since it used “They” in the sentence and not “Them”, “Who” is correct</p>

<p>For “who” and “whom” I just insert “they” and “them” (or he/she/it/him/her depending on the subject) in the spot and see which one works. Hasn’t failed me so far.</p>

<p>Overall I thought this section was pretty easy. There were a few tricky ones here and there though.</p>

<p>Lol wow the who or whom stuff really isnt tht tough…</p>

<p>Through my parents, who had known blah blah. . .</p>

<p>That one should be who because you would say “They had known” instead of “Them had known”</p>

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<p>t was something like this:
Blah Blah Blah Passengers, many of WHOM were skeptical blah blah.</p>

<p>RIXS - do u agree?</p>

<p>I know I missed the sentence ordering one in the old friends passage. =/ I just hope I didn’t make any other stupid mistakes! I really need to do well on this section to bring up all of the others.</p>

<p>Mch did u put 321?</p>

<p>I don’t remember what I put, but I put the “I had to go there for work” one last, and it should have been second, I think.</p>

<p>Does anyone know if the answer to the order one is 132?</p>