<p>So I got an 8 out of 12 on the essay. Overall, I got a 2280 on the test. Last june I got a 7 out of 12 on the essay and a 36 on the ACT. But my ap english teacher told me I was guaranteed a 5 on the ap exam. Is the essay b.s.? I dont think I choked. Will those essay scores kill my chances at big time schools or scholarships?</p>
<p>I’ve honestly heard that CR/Math is more important than Writing.</p>
<p>the essay is complete bs. in a MIT study they found a very high correlation between length and score, and were able to predict the score based on length 90% of the time.</p>
<p>The writing score has proven to be the best predictor of college GPAs, so give it the attention it deserves.</p>
<p>^ Really? Do you have proof of this?</p>
<p>im not tryin to sound sour that i didnt do as well as i wanted. It just seems weird that my writing scores have no correlation with my scores on any other part of the test or even an ap test.</p>
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<p><a href=“http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/Validity_of_the_SAT_for_Predicting_First_Year_College_Grade_Point_Average.pdf[/url]”>http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/Validity_of_the_SAT_for_Predicting_First_Year_College_Grade_Point_Average.pdf</a></p>
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<p>Can you tell me what these numbers mean?</p>
<p>Here is the explanation for how the correlations were adjusted:</p>
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<p>So, yeah…</p>
<p>Anyhow, the data show that the Writing section correlates better than either of the other two sections in predicting freshman grades in college. It also shows that the SAT and high-school GPA predict freshman grades almost exactly as well. When those factors are combined, the predictive validity obviously increases.</p>
<p>^yep, I actually read that a California study inspected all incoming W,CR,M scores for the UC schools and found that W scors correlated best to grades that freshman students received.</p>
<p>I think the essay is subjective though.</p>
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<p>Yes, it is.</p>
<p>The same study also found that the addition of the essay in March 2005 (along with other less major content changes) did not make the new SAT a better predictor of the first-year college GPA (compared to the non-essay SAT).</p>
<p>^ The SAT didn’t even have a Writing section, let alone an essay, prior to March 2005.</p>
<p>I think he’s saying that the addition of the writing section after March 2005 was found to not make the new SAT a better predictor of first year college GPA.</p>
<p>I got a 70 with an 8 essay to get a score of 680, which is pretty low. Does this mean my college GPA will likely be low? I got a 2160 overall btw.</p>
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<p>The correlation is not strong enough to warrant individual predictions based on SAT score.</p>
<p>Correlation does not imply causation.</p>
<p>^ Why is that relevant here?</p>
<p>I took the January SAT, then the June SAT. The January test I scored a 2230, and on the June exam I scored a 2360. Both of these instances I scored an 800 on the writing section. I know how you said that it is difficult to make individual predictions, silverturtle, but is it very likely that my college GPA will be high due to these scores?</p>
<p>^ Your score suggests that you are competent enough to do well in college if you exert yourself. I’ll leave it at that. :)</p>
<p>Do not imagine that your score on the SAT writing section can possibly predict your college grades. The SAT writing section requires a reasonable degree of skill in grammar and the ability to pound out a long essay using lots of juicy vocab with very little else.</p>
<p>The SAT writing essay is very little related to any writing that students will do in college. The grading rubric is seriously flawed. A long essay full of factual errors will score perfectly.
And, yes, Perelman at MIT has shown the length/score correlation to be extraordinary strong. This says it all:
[News:</a> Fooling the College Board - Inside Higher Ed](<a href=“http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/03/26/writing]News:”>http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/03/26/writing)</p>