Junior looking for match schools with International Relations & Affairs

College Search & Selection
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<p>well first off u have to be a member of USNEWS (my dad is and gave me all his account info)</p>

<p>to find the IR rankings for undergrad, you first have to find a school thats ranked in it.</p>

<p>Click on the rankings (u have to be logged in to do so)
Nyu is ranked 2 in international relations (and finance)
and then a list pops up, and here is the list</p>

<ol>
<li> Univ. of South Carolina–Columbia</li>
<li> New York University</li>
<li> University of Michigan–Ann Arbor</li>
<li> University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li> University of California–Berkeley</li>
<li> University of Texas–Austin</li>
<li> Florida International University</li>
<li> Univ. of Missouri–St. Louis
Georgetown University (DC)</li>
<li> Temple University (PA)
San Diego State University</li>
<li> University of Washington</li>
<li> University of Hawaii–Manoa
Indiana University–Bloomington</li>
<li> Univ. of Southern California
U. of North Carolina–Chapel Hill
Northeastern University (MA)</li>
<li> Washington State University
University of Oklahoma</li>
<li> George Washington University (DC)</li>
<li> Brigham Young Univ.–Provo (UT)</li>
<li> University of Virginia
University of Miami (FL)
Univ. of Maryland–College Park
U. of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign</li>
</ol>

<p>and why would thsoe schools have to come first lolabelle
Stern business is arguably one of the best business schools out there (and on usnews its number 5)</p>

<p>so if any of you would like lists for other major rankings, just tell me.</p>

<p>and
they only do the individual major rankings for business majors and engineering majors and thats it.</p>

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<p>and i could even send u a screen print of the page lolabelle, if u dont believe me</p>

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<p>and why would JHU, Gtown, Tufts, Harvard, and princeton have to come first?
the only one of those with a business school is Gtown</p>

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<p>brenelen,</p>

<p>if u could get ur sat up (and try act)
u might have a decent shot at U penn.</p>

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<p>THAT IS AN INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS RANKING. That has nothing to do with IR. Pshh.</p>

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<p>whoops</p>

<p>silly me.
well iguess lolabelle solves that one</p>

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<p>Yeah could you get us the International Relations list we are all literally dying to see.
BTW big kudos for USC Columbia, damn that ranking must be screwed up or i just don't know alot about the USouthCarolina system.</p>

<p>I don't want to sound greedy or petty for not being able to afford the $14.99 for premium access, but i think it would benefit mankind so much if someone would post those rankings asap.
Cheers</p>

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<p>There is no IR USNews ranking. Foreign Affairs has one for PhD/MA programs. The only undergrad ranking of IR programs is Gourman, which lists the programs in this order:</p>

<p>Tufts
Princeton
Johns Hopkins
Georgetown
U Penn
Harvard
Cornell
U Wisconsin Madison
MIT
Stanford
UVA
Notre Dame
US Air Force Acad
US Military Acad
Claremont McKenna</p>

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<p>whered u get that info</p>

<p>im guessing u have the gourman report</p>

<p>do u think they would have it at my local library, or do libraries never carry it.</p>

<p>I heard its kidna unreliable since it has no ranking explanations, and is almost 10 years outdated.</p>

<p>but yeah
i still wanna give it a look.</p>

<p>yeah
and sorry groenveld</p>

<p>i messed up.
they only have international business rankings, not IR rankings</p>

<p>but if u would like to know the rankings for any business or engineering related majors, just ask me.</p>

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<p>
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I heard its kidna unreliable since it has no ranking explanations, and is almost 10 years outdated.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>Some people think it's unreliable because it's never been done before -- ranking undergradute schools by specific department, that is. In fact, I don't think anything except undergraduate business programs are ranked by anyone else. For now, then, Gourman is the closest thing we have to it.</p>

<p>I think that what we can glean from Gourman rankings -- not just for IR, but for every ranking Gourman did -- is that the schools listed in those rankings are all the top programs, althought not necessarily in that order (though it's probably quite accurate for undergrad). In the IR Gourman ranking, the schools most generally accepted as being the best for IR are all there (Tufts, Gtown, JHU, Harvard, Princeton, Claremont McKenna, etc.).</p>

<p>For those of you have the Fiske Guide, they list the strongest departments at each school. Look for the ones listed to have the strongest international relations programs, that could give youa good idea as well. Again, the schools above will all be listed plus some less selective schools like American and GWU that have great IR programs despite their lower overall reputations.</p>

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<p>yeah
thanks
im still interested in gourman</p>

<p>do u actually have it?
if so, then i have a few questions about schools with best japanese/ east asian studies, and best poli sci programs</p>

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<p>I'm sorry, I don't have it. The Gourman rankings often get posted on CC. If you do a search, I'm sure you can find them. I remember one thread where nearly every ranking in Gourman was posted.</p>

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<p>Berenelen,</p>

<p>I am trying to think of a school that meets all of your criteria, and right now University of Chicago comes to mind. It has an outstanding program in all of the social sciences, the undergraduate college is quite small, Midwest location, students LOVE to learn, and it is a total Geek school (A friend at U of C PROUDLY got me a shirt saying “University of Chicago – where fun comes to die”). The music department definitely offers courses for non-majors.</p>

<p>The only thing is that I don’t know really know the extent to which financial aid is an option.</p>

<p>If you are really serious about studying IR at the undergrad level though – then go with Lolabelle’s suggestions: Tufts/Hopkins/Georgetown are great options, but if you prefer these schools all have great IR graduate programs too.</p>

<p>As myself an NYU alum – I would definitely NOT recommend NYU given your priorities. The school is very large, not in the Midwest, students party a lot NYC and my girlfriend wasn’t particularly impressed with the Music classes for non-majors (I hear it is great for Majors though).</p>

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<p>Too bad no site has an accurate undergrad IR ranking sheet. Hmm... but even though the Gourman report is outdated and questionable i am glad to see UW on the list.
Anton the U of C t shirt is 100% true, but those 4 years of hell are pretty much worth that degree, unless you died while studying(princetonreview #1 Academic Overal Exp!)</p>

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<p>lmao i knew that list was complete crap the minute i saw it. UCLA and UCSD aren't even listed and they both have polisci programs in the top ten in the nation with long standing reputations (especially LA)</p>

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<p>Johns Hopkins University</p>

<p>It's rather to safe to say that Hopkins has the BEST IR program in the country (as rated by Foreign Affairs journal) So, if you want to talk reputation, we are it. When you talk to people in politics and mention JHU, they immediately think of all of the big names here at JHU (Prof. David, Prof. Deudeney, Prof. Blyth, Prof. Tsai, etc.) and of all the SAIS professors in DC (Prof. Mandelbaum, Prof. Fuikuyama, etc.). I would encourage you to go to the department web pages and check out the different professors' recent publications. These guys are doing some amazing stuff!</p>

<p>As for careers, you couldn't ask for a better sampling. Law school (over 95% of Hopkins grads applying to law school get in), non-governmental organizations (UN? Amnesty international? Oxfam?), finance (World bank? Paul Wolfowitz - now the head of the World Bank - was a Hopkins prof., futures?, research?). </p>

<p>As for grad school, JHU has its own School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) in Washington D.C. Frequent guests at SAIS include...</p>

<p>-Senator John Kerry
-Senator Chuck Hagel
-Lt. General David Petraeus (commanding general of the U.S. Army Combined Arms Center)
-CBS Journalist Bob Schieffer
-U.K. Defense Minister Des Browne
-Pakistani Ambassador Mahmud Ali Durrani
-Assistant Secretary of State Christopher R. Hill
-N.Y. Federal Reserve Bank President Timothy Geithner
and many many more....</p>

<p>Johns Hopkins also has two separate campuses for International Studies worldwide in: Nanjing, China, and Bologna, Italy. Hopkins students are always welcome to complete their studies at the two international campuses.</p>

<p>As for the university in general, Johns Hopkins is one of the most prestigious colleges nationwide. It has a VERY well-respected reputation especially in the fields of medicine and international studies. Although Baltimore, like any other metropolitans, isn't the greatest place the study, Johns Hopkins has certainly tried to make the livelihood and security of their students the number one priority. Take a look at JHU's elegantly maintained campus: <a href="http://cmichae.acm.jhu.edu/blog/2006/11/06/johns-hopkins-homewood-campus-fall/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://cmichae.acm.jhu.edu/blog/2006/11/06/johns-hopkins-homewood-campus-fall/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Lastly, some fast facts about JHU:
Enrolled undergraduates: 4,417
Enrolled graduate students: 1,608
Student/Faculty ratio: 9:1
More than 67% of classes are "29 or less" students
Applicants: 13,863
Admitted: 3,698
Admit rate: 27% </p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

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<p>berenelen,mewantcollege, to name a few!
(groenveld and i have talked)....as a parent of one at AU, i can say AU is world-known for its SIS..School of International Service, and is considered most comprehensive program in the world, yes world! that amazed me, too! the DC campus is actually second to AU's IR Moscow program. as far as image, it doesn't seem to put as much into its public relations as some of its rivals. it doesn't have a poor image, but rather a less publicized one...but that's in keeping with the way AU sets its priorities, i think. hope folks look into this place. (p.s. i find, as a parent i'm seen sometimes as not as welcome as the kids here, but i'm trying to help in a meningful way!) BEST OF LUCK TO ALL!</p>

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<p>silver bullet...
agreed</p>

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<p>JHU and AU have great IR, along with UCSD, UCLA, GW, GTown and every college you have read in this thread. But JHU might just have an edge.... which of course doesn't say that the others suck. It just means all of those schools are amazing and JHU is .......mega-amazing ?</p>

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<p>Everyone has had some really great suggestions - all great schools with great programs - except of course none of those schools meet Berenelen's preference for a school in the Midwest.</p>