<p>Didn’t want to go into too many details. Extracurriculars are excellent I believe. Also took a college course in business at a college in Shanghai this summer which would show interest in business.</p>
<p>At the info session, it seemed like ED doesn’t give you that much of a boost into NYU. Is this not true for Stern? If it does, is ED2 as good?</p>
<p>ED definitely gives you a boost. They just say that it doesn’t because no school openly admits applying ED raises your chances.</p>
<p>If you really want to get in, apply ED.</p>
<p>I will be applying ED. What is the most important facet of the application package? NYU probably says that it practices a holistic admissions process, but most schools that say that will usually place either grades or SAT as first priority. What is the hierarchy of the application constituents?</p>
<p>Hi Surish,</p>
<p>My name is Joe. I will be an incoming Stern junior, transferring from Rutgers University. I had a few questions:</p>
<p>1) As a transfer student, will my opportunities be limited in any way in terms of on campus recruitment? One of my main reasons for transferring is to gain better access to internships and OCR. I am planning to major in finance and am looking to break into any prestigious fields within finance (ib, asset management, pe, etc) What GPA would I need to land interviews (I know 3.5 is a minimum, but that is only a minimum, what gpa is usually considered “high”, or “a shoo-in for interviews”?)</p>
<p>2) Do you think I will be disadvantaged in any way compared to those students already enrolled in Stern in terms of recruiting? I feel like those who were admitted to Stern from high school already have 2 years worth of connections under their belt, and have superior internships to that which I had at Rutgers. How do you suggest I combat this disadvantage? I have heard of BAP, are there any other clubs/societies/associations you recommend?</p>
<p>3) Right now, I am enrolled in FFM, Org Comm, FSA (financial statement analysis), EGB. I still need to take a finance proficiency exam to see if place into Corp Fin. Assuming I fail the exam, what do you suggest I tack on to those 4 classes to flesh out my schedule? I am thinking of double majoring in Finance/Econ. What classes are you taking this fall semester as a junior?</p>
<p>4) If I am interested in rushing for BAP, you mentioned I would need a 3.5 gpa. I received a 3.704 gpa at rutgers, will I be able to use this gpa to rush or will I need to “sit out” during the rushing period fall semester until I wait and get my actual nyu gpa and then rush for BAP in the spring? I am afraid that this will conflict with recruiting and that I will not be able to enjoy the benefits of BAP until my senior year, long after junior recruiting season finishes. </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>@LeatherCouch: The hard numbers (GPA/SATS) are the most important. It’s figure it to be something like this (importance decreases as you move down the list):</p>
<p>-URM Status
-SATs (Heavy emphasis on Math/CR other writing)
-GPA (while considering the rigor of your courseload)
-Essays
-SAT IIs/AP tests
-Recs</p>
<p>My answer probably does not shock you too much lol.</p>
<p>@Josephyang: </p>
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<li><p>3.5 is the minimum as you said with no connections and even then, you need to get extremely lucky. 3.7 is when you get competitive and have a strong shot at getting interviews. 3.8 or higher is when banks start giving you interviews just based on your GPA. A lot of other things come into play as well, like what prior internships/networking did you do when it comes to getting interviews so don’t only focus on GPA. Also, I suggest you read up a bit on how to break into these individual fields and understand what they are all about. Don’t just pick what field you want to get into based on prestige. Later on, your year end bonus will be based on how well you performed…and if you’re unhappy…well that would suck. </p></li>
<li><p>I don’t think so. There will be those superstar networking students that will have an advantage, but they have an advantage over most of Stern so you shouldn’t fret. Most students end up networking heavily their junior year fall semester and early spring semester. You can try joining Finance Society, you’ll learn a lot if you are new to finance. I plan on joining just because a bunch of my BAP friends do it. </p></li>
<li><p>Hmmm, I thought Corp Fin. needed you to take FFM as a prerequisite? Also I suggest you stick to just those 4 classes. OrComm (idk why we sternies don’t keep the g) can be very taxing if your group is lazy and you’re shooting for an A. EGB is also considered to be one of the hardest classes in Stern because teachers (Foudy) likes to not only quiz concepts but also weird facts from the book. For example, he may quiz you on whether Marvel classifies X-men toys as humans or animals. This topic gets one paragraph or so in the book and he expects you to know it. But if you study the book hard, it’s an easy A. (Also the classification is important due to international trade regulations) This, combined with pleding BAP, will make your semester very busy. </p></li>
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<p>Also Stern classes get really intense compared to other NYU classes because of the Stern curve. Most Sternies go crazy during finals/midterms when they take 16 credits at Stern. I did 18 credits once and I decided never to do that again. I did really well but my social life suffered. </p>
<p>But if you really want another class to take, go with Piano lessons or Interviewing Strategies. These are easy GPA booster classes that every Sternie takes so you might as well keep up with everyone else right? I don’t know what Stern class to recommend because I don’t know what courses you took in Rutgers.</p>
<p>As for the classes I am taking, they will probably shift around a bit. Currently:</p>
<p>Debt Instruments
Corp. Fin
Management & Operations
Interveiwing Strategies
-Some other class which I have not decided yet (since I am only only at 12 credits)</p>
<p>I may drop debt instruments for something else. I’m always horrible with scheduling classes. </p>
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<li>You should be fine, but you can always double check during our rush week. </li>
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<p>Let me know when you get into the city, I’ll show you around. If you are into drinking/partying, a few of my BAP friends and I will be going out a few nights on Welcome Week. You should join us! However NYU does do a great job of getting transfer students to make friends with other transfers so you might just be too busy to hang.</p>
<p>chances to play poker at/around nyu?</p>
<p>@1337331: Sadly I don’t know, I’ve only played poker occasionally with my fraternity friends on a casual basis while at NYU.</p>
<p>I’m sure NYC has a bunch of places, you just need to look around a bit.</p>
<p>Hey,</p>
<p>First off thanks for making the thread, I’ve read through a lot of it and it has answered many questions!</p>
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<li>How likely do you think I am to get in with a 3.5UW and around a 2200 SAT score (re-taking SAT in the fall and am on track for this score). Also I plan on taking the Math II (on track for 800) and one other SAT II test. I’ve taken mostly honors classes through sophomore/junior/(and now) senior year and of course a few AP classes as well. I am sure that my essay will be quite good and hope to get killer rec letters. As far as class rank goes, our school doesn’t give those out (at least not to students) and they won’t give any percentage range either.</li>
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<p>ECs: I have a mixed range of sports but unfortunately nothing I stayed consistent with. I’ve done a few clubs through high school… main one being FBLA (Future Business Leaders of America) which I joined in my Junior year and am now an officer. I’ve volunteered ~200 hours at a local nursing home for the elderly. Aside from volunteer work, I’ve done a lot of work with internet marketing, ran a couple online businesses, and have been successful in making a good amount of money. The angle I plan to use is how I’ve been active in business for a long time and have been able to expose myself to what I plan to do for my career. I am disappointed in my ECs, but I’m hoping the business portion makes up for that.</p>
<p>And if it matters, I’m an asian indian male.</p>
<p>I’d definitely appreciate any tips you have for me!</p>
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<li>I’m almost decided on applying early since it does significantly help with acceptance rates and I think the loss in financial aid is something I can forgo. Will applying ED 2 benefit me in the sense that NYU would be able to see my senior year first semester grades? (Would they include that in the GPA?)</li>
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<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>@Vish24: </p>
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<li>Well it is all speculative at this point. If you get a 2200, that would be great and within Stern’s normal range. Your GPA is a bit lower than the average but the real question is: Did you really challenge yourself with a rigorous courseload throughout HS? I know a bunch of Sternies who only took like 3 APs in HS, because that was all their school offered. If you didn’t and you only ended with a 3.5 UW, that could be disconcerting. Just don’t lose focus and work hard at getting those short term stats (SATs/SAT IIs) up as high as possible. After all, that is a number than can be controlled easily with lots of hard work. </li>
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<p>As for yours ECs, the volunteer work and the entreprenuerial work will look great. Really stress why your businesses are important to you (don’t make it seem like you did it just to get a business related EC). Also it’s fine that you got your business related ECs later on in your HS experience, I doublt any freshman really knows what they want to do. You could try explaining that FBLA was what inspired you or something along those lines. I honestly think your ECs are strong, use them to your advantaage. (Ofc you could just be BS’ing me and they just simply look good on paper lol.)</p>
<p>I won’t lie, I do not really know how you’d fare. I think your chances are just average, you don’t really outshine any of your peers so it will really come down to is you improving your stats and writing amazing essays/receiving good recommendations. ED should really help you though, so don’t despair. If you get rejected during ED, just work even harder and reapply because you fit the typical sternie student profile. </p>
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<li>I think if you applied ED1, you could still send in your 1st semester grades for review. But you should call up admissions and ask directly. At my old HS, we have 4 quarters and schools were willing to receive your 1st quarter (and sometimes 2nd quarter) grades after you applied ED. Honestly, if you have really strong upward trend (as in your junior year is all A’s), then I doubt it will matter. I think admissions would just assume you would keep that up. If your grades are a bit more lukewarm (by CC standards, y’know A’s & B’s in APs) and you think you’ll get all A’s your first senior semester, then it could be worthwhile. </li>
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<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>I will be applying ED.
How would a 3.75 GPA and 2300 (1530) fare? My GPA is low, but I do have a rigorous course load.
How important are ECs? Unfortunately, most of my ECs involve either sports or music, so I feel that I will be put at a huge disadvantage compared to other applicants who have business related ECs.
How much of a disadvantage will i be at for being an Asian male?</p>
<p>This may be a bizarre request… could you possibly create a theoretical “chance?” By this I mean a 100 point scale where you would assign each application constituent (grades, standardized scores, essays, ECs, recs, etc) a specific point value.
e.g. SAT is worth 30 points. my 1530 falls within Stern’s 75% SAT score range of 1510 (found this number on BusinessWeek so I don’t know how accurate it is) therefore I would score roughly 23 points.
I understand how very, very flawed this method is…</p>
<p>@leathercouch your GPA is fine don’t worry you have a great chance</p>
<p>Although GPA is very important, I definitely feel that it’s overstressed. I applied RD to Stern with a 3.4-3.5 weighted and a 2240 SAT and 33 ACT. I had barely any extracurriculars (no awards, sports, music, 1 volunteer experience) and I got in with scholarship… </p>
<p>So basically what I’m trying to say is that you’ll never know what your chances are.</p>
<p>Superexcited - you got into Stern RD and Ross? Are you a URM? You are from New York - the suburbs? With a 2340 SAT and 34 ACT and 3.6 unweighted gpa and good extracurriculars people are telling me to forget Ross preferred admit and to apply to Stern ED. How many years ago did you apply? Why did you choose NYU over Ross?</p>
<p>Usnews ranks stern as #2 for international business but i have yet to find a major called international business. I did see global business as a co concentration. Could you possibly tell me more about nyu’s int business.</p>
<p>During applications, do you indicate what concentration you wish to pursue, or do you simply state if you are considering business or BPE? If it is the case that you can indicate your preferred concentration, are there some concentration that are “easier” to get into? Will you be expected to follow your intended concentration?</p>
<p>@amazon: Yes I got into Stern RD I applied early to UMich, but found out about preferred admission to Ross around the same time I found out about Stern. I am definitely not URM (Asian male). And I am from the NY suburbs which I guess helped my chances.</p>
<p>I am a rising sophomore so I applied 2 years ago. The application pools are getting more competitive with each year but the two year difference shouldn’t make that big of a difference. </p>
<p>I’m not sure why people are telling you to forget Ross as you seem like a very competitive candidate. I do not suggest applying ED to stern because the people that I know who did, did not get any scholarship money. </p>
<p>I originally applied ED to Cornell but was deferred and rejected, so I didn’t think Ross or Stern were viable options for me, but lo and behold I got into both. I chose Stern because I got a significant amount of money (although I don’t have that much financial need), whereas at Ross, I got very little, so Stern was more financially do-able. And I just liked Stern more, though both schools are top-notch programs.</p>
<p>@leathercouch: when you apply, you indicate whether you want to apply to the BPE program or the regular business program. The concentration you put down has no (to my knowledge) bearing on your chances, and you don’t even declare your concentration until later on in your college career anyways, so that can always be changed. And the international business concentration is a co-concentration so you can’t solely major in international business. So you can do finance and international business, or marketing and international business, etc.</p>
<p>Surish (the OP) is a great guy. i transferred into stern this past semester as a junior (came from rutgers university) and i had a lot of questions and Surish was great at answering them. i even got to meet him in real life at one of the bap events here and now we’re pretty good friends. it’s a small world here at stern and though students are competitive at nature, if you really get to know some people they will open up and be friendly too. I talked to Surish a few days ago and he said “keep the questions coming!”</p>
<p>@Joe: Haha thanks bro! I already made another thread to answer more questions since I figured this thread died out awhile ago.</p>