Junior's Chances at Columbia (wasting my time?)

<p>Hey, wondering how I look</p>

<p>GPA 9-11 3.75W 3.65 UW
GPA 10-11 4.1W 3.9 UW</p>

<p>Hardest possible courseload 11 and 12 years, also the years I did the best in</p>

<p>ACT: 35
SAT: 2340
PSAT: 225
SAT II:
Math IIC: 800
Biology: 780
US History: 800</p>

<p>AP Tests:
Bio, Stat, US (expecting 5's)</p>

<p>Class Rank: at the moment it's about 13%, should hopefully be under 10% by the time I apply RD to colleges(HOPEFULLY) chance both ways please</p>

<p>ECs:
AIME
JSA @ Georgetown
JSA at school - president
Key Club
Speech and Debate - NFL nationals
National Honors Society - secretary
Medical Club
Tutoring 5th graders =)
Stanford Debate Camp - Advanced Seminar
Intern @ Law firm</p>

<p>Don't be so hard on yourself - "wasting my time".</p>

<p>Assuming you're a great person, and you're able to show it in your essays and others can prove it in their recommendations, then you are a very strong applicant, I can almost assure you that.</p>

<p>=) I appreciate that. (honest)</p>

<p>Pick up ur class rank and your GPA and you'll have a decent shot.</p>

<p>edit: make sure you have something that you truly are passionate about that you convey on your application. that counts more than almost anything</p>

<p>You should apply ED.</p>

<p>LDer, Extemper?</p>

<p>Good stats but start thinking about what you want to write about during the summer and start. It'll give you plenty to time to get something that says "You"</p>

<p>LDer and Extemper, actually</p>

<p>Also make sure the recs from your teachers highlight your passions and compassion. Also note that your take academic risks and really put yourself out there.</p>

<p>Sorry about being redundant here but have not posted this in a long time -- at private schools the RECs are co-ordinated. I have read posts that say telling your REC teachers what to say is gaming the system. Well, then in private schools they are gaming the system.</p>

<p>Don't write the letter for them BUT give them succinct bullet points to address in the letter including any personal challenges you have overcome...</p>

<p>Not kidding, that needs to go in the letter from the teachers.</p>

<p>Also, intern at law firm ... hope you learned something that can help humanity and express that in your app.</p>

<p>I just posted the Harvard article on admissions. I think the pertinent point is that they are looking for that intangible 'personal qualities' that I think students often fail to convey or have conveyed by their teachers. The article states:</p>

<p>In both the early and regular action rounds, ... admissions officers start by assessing each applicant in four areas </p>

<p>academics,
extracurriculars,
personal qualities, and
athletics</p>

<p>on a scale of one (best) to six (worst). Those who pass this initial
threshold move forward to a second and sometimes third reader for
further appraisal; the rest form the first batch of rejects, their
folders marked with dismissive notes such as “below the edge” or “case
falls flat.”</p>

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Speech and Debate - NFL nationals
Stanford Debate Camp - Advanced Seminar

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This is cooler than you realize. Top debaters are viewed as hot commodities because they've been trained to think at such a high level. This is probably more true for policy than LD/Extemp but certainly not untrue for those.</p>

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Tutoring 5th graders =)

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if this is a sincere and long-term commitment of yours, it reflects very well.</p>

<p>In both cases, you should emphasize these elements.</p>

<p>And the advice to apply ED is a good one, it will make you stand out even more.</p>

<p>Just a quirky fact: top debater in the country got turned down by Harvard last year ... stellar everything else as well.</p>

<p>maybe just too many debaters that year.</p>

<p>Do I have a good shot at Columbia ED assuming good essays and recommendations?</p>

<p>I did Extemp and will be doing Congress at NFLs this year. Are you going to be there?</p>

<p>Yes, you have a good shot.</p>

<p>Oh, I forgot to add a very high upward trend.
3.21(F), 3.79(S), 4.2(J), 4.35(Sr)
The trend would be higher, but our AP weighting is severely flawed. (not enough weight)</p>

<p>sorry this is off topic, but about_time, they rank you on specifically ATHLETICS? what happens if you get a 6? do you automatically not make it to the next round?</p>

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sorry this is off topic, but about_time, they rank you on specifically ATHLETICS? what happens if you get a 6? do you automatically not make it to the next round?

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<p>Columbia doesn't do that.</p>