<p>LOL valdecitorian of a private school probably. </p>
<p>Penn is need-blind (I think) so people don’t pay their in, but Im sure quite a few get born in (via legacy) or recruited through athletics.</p>
<p>First of all, that is the most idiotic statement i have ever seen. Why would being need-blind affect a family’s way of “making a generous donation” to ensure an admittance? </p>
<p>Second, Ivy league schools cannot recruit or at least give full scholarships for athletics. </p>
<p>Also, my friend got a packet from Brown after a 1650 on the PSAT. Every school pads their numbers, its called marketing. </p>
<p>And schools won’t care if some kid got a 2300 or a 2350, not much of a difference. If everything else is pretty even, the kid with 2350 wins.</p>
<p>pepper said "In my opinion - these “robots” are (not all) but mostly kids who have been pushed by their parents and have never seen anything besides their books. You don’t have to have a 2400 on the SAT to be ambitious and want to achieve great things. I understand that ivys are the best of the best and only want the best of the best but that includes regular people who work hard and have real dreams, not only kids who have been convinced in the 4th grade that they have to attend an ivy or their life will be over.</p>
<p>I’m reading crazy things on here about people preparing for the SAT since grade school, do you really think these kids’ dreams are their own ?"</p>
<p>I really don’t think this is true at all. of those who were pushed by their parents to prepare for the SATs since grade school, how many actually end up increasing their sats to 2300+ levels and get into ivy leagues? not many, i can tell you that from experiencing prep schools from 5-8th grade(i wanted to quit, so my parents let me). I can tell you that I and my other friends who did well on their SATs and got a lot out of prep school did so simply because we were ambitious, competitive people who wanted to be the best of the best. ON top of that, if you are someone who has never seen anything besides books, you are not getting into any Ivy league. How is an Ivy league supposed to know you are an ambitious person, anyways? Extracurriculars, essays, interview, and grades? That’s what they do. Any other suggestions? Think about it… say you have bad grades, but everything else shows you are an ambitious person with “real dreams.” Then think someone who has that… plus perfect grades and SAT scores.</p>
<p>Alright, raise your hand if you know anyone who has never seen anything but their books, was pushed by their parents to get a 2400, and who does not even have their own dreams… who got into a top school.</p>
<p>-no one raises their hand-</p>
<p>I’d like to second every single point made in the post above me. I think you just need to go through an admissions cycle before you realize that it is not a blind, evil process.</p>
<p>Also, a lot of you on this thread are kind of demeaning top schools by claiming that you know more about who is better fit for their respective institutions than they do. Admissions offices are filled with professionals who have been reading applications for years and watching how each class that they admit performs at their respective school upon admittance. Penn seems to use SAT scores as a qualifier but not as part of the forefront of an application… would they keep doing that if they realized that they weren’t getting very satisfactory classes? There is an amaaaaazing amount of true drive and passion marching down Locust Walk everyday… have you not noticed this? I can say the same of other top schools as well.</p>
<p>Ok, I am not at all a fan of these postboard websites but I happened to be looking on this one for some information about some financial aid stuff. When I came across this, I read a few posts and realized that I needed to tell you this…</p>
<p>I got into Penn with a 1980 on the SAT. I did not pay my way in (not even an option) and I have zero legacy. I got in because my essay was unique and stood out. I showed passion for the two extracurriculars that I am heavily involved in. </p>
<p>If you are meant to get in, you will. Stop thinking that kids who have lower scores are either super rich or super athletic. Some of us are very smart and deserve to get into schools like Penn.</p>
<p>KDI, I am willing to bet that you are not an ORM.
Correct me if i am wrong.
with 23.3% of their class ORM, they have to balance their class out with standard represented people and URMs.</p>
<p>He doesnt sound like an orm because hes cocky and makes it seem like people should just be accepted beause they say so. “some people deserve to get it” yea and some don’t just because they are white/asian.</p>
<p>LOL his highest section of the sat was writing. His math and reading was like a 1200
I smell a huge hook/urm status</p>
<p>KansasKid, please do not sodomize statistics like that; 45% valedictorians in the class is not the same as saying 45% of valedictorians were admitted.</p>
<p>also, please do not attack a 1980 SAT score with URM, hooks, and other things that “smell.” Perhaps this individual took a risk in his application none of you would have ever dreamed of taking (controversial essays / unorthodox personal statements).</p>
<p>My daughter was deferred ED – all A’s (except a B in PE) great ECs, essays, recommendations – and a 2150 on the SAT. She decided to take an SAT class and then take the SAT one last time. She scored a 2350 and on March 30 got the news that she was accepted. We aren’t necessarily attributing it to the SAT score but we couldn’t figure out what else it could be. Nine of her A’s were in AP classes and she finished third in her class at an extremely competitive school.</p>
<p>@necrophiliac: Perhaps I misinterpreted the stats…look at the information Penn gives out and correct me if I’m wrong - this would drastically change how I’ve interpreted the statistics.</p>
<p>The reason I was under the impression that it meant that 45% of valedictorians were admitted instead of the other way around was that the individual top decile percentages add up to 105.1% yet the Total Top Decile percentage is given as 21.6% (which, as would make sense, is also slightly greater than the admit percentage as a whole)</p>
<p>For your information, I’m caucasian. I got in because I worked hard and took a risk. No need to insult me (on a college-themed online POSTBOARD) just because you’re threatened by someone that’s more unique than you are. You really should be embarrassed by your ignorance.</p>
<p>KansasKid, My best guess is that the total applicant pool of 22,935 is corrected by 16,848 (schools don’t rank) and then the statistic is given. Seeing how it’s the “Incoming Class Profile,” it has to be that 45% of 22935-16848 is valedictorians and for schools that don’t rank but give general percentiles, the 21.6% is applicable. If anyone else has a more convincing interpretation, I’m all ears. However, I HIGHLY doubt that 45% of valedictorians were admitted.</p>
<p>^^you came off as an ignorant doosh. “Some of us deserve to get into Penn”. Yea real nice statement there. Still doubt that there were no hooks attached.</p>
<p>HAHAHHA that’s not an unkind statement in any way! Read it in context, moron! There are no hooks attached. I deserved to get in and admissions saw something in me. I’m not sure what they saw in you but it doesn’t seem like anything good. “Doosh”…that’s cute.</p>
<p>I love you both but tend to agree with KDI28 on this one; you (collegebound41) and asian went on the offensive on a relatively tame and relevant comment that was constructive to the thread’s development.</p>
<p>^^still sound like an @$$wipe to me. “i deserve to get in” lol well there more qualified people who didn’t. LOL you cant call me a moron seeing how i scored higher than you on the sat as a freshman.</p>
<p>i’m an ORM that got into penn with a ~3.26 UW gpa. so newsflash, your application CAN be a bit lacking in some areas as an ORM and you’ll still have a chance. (i did get a 2330 superscored on my SAT which i’m sure helped, though. my SAT 2’s were good but not great.)</p>
<p>Considering the only thing you know about me is my SAT score, I don’t really see how you could say there are people more qualified than I am, including yourself. You have absolutely nothing to base it on other than a number that doesn’t mean anything. You were good at taking a test, woohoo. Too bad your personality sucks. Hopefully we won’t be meeting on campus next year. Good luck with college, I’m sure you’ll be great at making friends.</p>
<p>The topic creator in this thread is super entitled. He hasn’t done anything concrete to prove that he should to get in, and yet he feels that deep down inside he MUST be somehow superior to every other applicant, and therefore DESERVES to get in. Newsflash: you’re not a unique and beautiful snowflake.</p>
<p>I think you guys are blowing what he said out of proportion…I took it to mean that he thinks that he deserved to get in just as much as anyone else who got in, not that he was superior to other applicants.</p>