JUST GOT OFF EMORY'S WAITLIST...What IF I CAN"T GET INTO MEDICAL SCHOOL FROM EMORY?

Pre-Med & Medical School Pre-Med Topics
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<p>I am confused, I am glad to have gotten off Emory's waitlist, but I don't know if I should go...I mean I have to pay full 50,000 to attend, but my efc was only 25,000.....My state school total cost is only 20,000....The other thing is, what if I am the dumbest kid there..I mean I didn't get in, in the first round. I have never visited the school....I plan on doing pre-med, so gpa is a BIG BIG thing for me....I want to major in Economics....I hear theres grade inflation at Emory, but what if I still can't make the grades...I mean I wasn't even top 10 percent in high schoool....Emory only has a 50 percent pre-med acceptance rate too....Its also very far from home....</p>

<p>These are my high school stats:</p>

<p>1470/1600 on sats (critical reading and math), a 2170(overall)...superscore is a 1500/2200...</p>

<p>Gpa - 3.8 unweighted, with a 4.1 weighted
10 A.P.s and 7 honors classes...</p>

<p>Class Rank-Top 20 PERCENT....</p>

<p>These are my high school grades...I am showing these, because I don't know if I have what it takes to do well at Emory....(I mean if I end up with a 3.0 I can't get into Medical School)</p>

<p>Freshman Year
1. Honors Algebra 2 - 95/98
2. Honors English - 90/94
3. Honors Biology - 92/94
4. PE - 93/92
5. Spanish 2 - 91/91
6. Art 1 - 92/91
7. Freshman Survial - 98</p>

<p>***Started going downhill, second semester of sophmore year...I guess I started getting dumber....</p>

<p>Sophmore Year
1. Honors English- 88/88
2. Honors Pre-Cal - 92/84
3. Honors Chemistry - 90/86
4. A.P. World History - 94/91
5. PE - 88/88
6. Spanish 3- 88/83
7. Medical Learning - 92/96</p>

<p>**** Started going uphill second semester of junior year a little, senior year I kicked it up a knotch....</p>

<p>Junior Year
1. A.P. English -87/83
2. A.P. Calculus AB - 83/88
3. Honors Physics - 89/90
4. A.P. American History - 94/95
5. Clinical Rotation -100/100
6. Clinical Rotation - 100/100</p>

<p>Senior Year
1. A.P. English - 91
2. Computer Science -87
3. A.P. Statistics -93
4. A.P. Calculus BC- 87
5. A.P. Biology -94
6. A.P. Macroeconomics - 92 </p>

<p>This is how I fared at other schools</p>

<p>Vanderbilt-Rejected
Rice-Rejected
NU-Rejected
JHU-Rejected
Cornell-Rejected
Boston College-Waitlisted
WashU-Waitlisted
Duke-Rejected
Brown-Rejected
UPenn-Rejected
Columbia-Rejected
University of Texas-Rejected----This is because I wasnt' top 10 percent...**** MY LIFE
Texas A&M-Accepted
Emory---Accepted..</p>

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<p>Um…you need to relax. You’re going to get yourself sick over grades and you didn’t even start college yet. How will you be able to handle the pressure of being a premed student while in college? Obviously you’re intelligent, but I guess you went to a high school with a high caliber of students (I don’t see how a 4.1 weighted GPA could only be in the top 20 percent…that means a 5th of your school had over a 4.0??). Well you don’t have to worry about this in college because there’s really no such thing as class rank unless you have to specifically request it (which you don’t for med school). You can get into med school from any college as long as you work hard and study properly. And as far as the percentage of students getting accepted from Emory…that’s a highly debated subject on these boards. I’d peruse further about acceptances from certain undergraduate schools on this forum because the numbers can be tweaked in the favor of the schools and everything.</p>

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<p>Go to A&M, save the 30K a year for med school. Attending Emory undergrad is not going to be a boost for med school admissions. They don’t care where you went to school, just how you did when you got there. </p>

<p>You need to focus on doing the best job you can at A&M, preparing well for the MCATs, getting the required medicine ECs and learning to relax. If you are this stressed about college grades/performance BEFORE you get there, the pressure and ardor of med school will do you in.</p>

<p>A&M is a very good school, strong in the sciences and annually send many grads to medical, dental and vet school. Emory is not worth the $120,000 plus difference especially right now and med school, if you are fortunate enough to get in, is much more costly than undergrad (unless you attend a Texas school) and is mostly loan based. Don’t dig yourself a deep financial hole for undergrad.</p>

<p>You won’t be alone turning down a wait list opening; I am expecting to see many wait list spots open this year as people begin to reassess their financial positions and go for merit money or lower cost schools.</p>

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<p>definitely go to Texas. As a matter of fact, Emory is a great school but not fabulous to get into med school and here’s why. You’ll never hear Emory say what their admit rates are into med school because it’s low. It’s true that 20% of Emory graduates end up at medical school. It’s also true that 40% of people graduating from Emory applied meaning 50% didnt make the cut. Also, do you really want to fight through that 40%, especially considering the caliber of Emory students.
And as to price, an Emory education is certainly NOT worth full price. Half price, maybe, nothing absolutely.
Eadad is absolutely correct, go with the lower school especially if you plan on going to med school which costs an arm, leg and your first born.</p>

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<p>^^^ The only reason I am asking, is because I am afraid I will make a 3.5 at Emory, and won’t be able to get into any Medical School…If I go to Emory, and mess up with a 3.0-3.5 gpa, then I would have wasted 200,000 dollars and 4 years of my life…I am afraid I won’t be albe to handle Emory’s rigor? Any input?</p>

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<p>lol the OP needs to learn how to relax.</p>

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<p>You can get into med school with a 3.3. You just have to have other strengths. My point is Emory is not worth $200,000 of your dollars. Unless your parents are super rich and can afford it like it’s a chocolate bar, go elsewhere.
Unless you are going for a top medical school, where you go to undergrad really wont matter. It’s what you do there that does. And unless you plan to teach or research, going to a top medical school isnt necessary either. They all give you MDs and you have just as good of a chance to get into a good residency program.
I’m premed too and honestly, I dont care where I end up as long as I get into somebody’s medical school.</p>

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Or rephrase: Emory’s advantage in medical school admissions isn’t worth $200K, which is true. Emory itself, if you like the school, might be priceless.</p>

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<p>yes BDM, very well said</p>

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<p>Any input?</p>

<p>Yes. Deep breath. Keep this up and you’ll be having a nervous break down before you reach Organic.</p>

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<p>You probably already made your college decision, but the reason Emory’s med school stats are so low is because they let ANYONE apply to med school, even those who do lousy on the MCATs and get lousy grades. According to a Career Services associate director at Emory, “those Emory students with a 3.5 and above and a 30 and above MCAT, we have a 89% acceptance rate for YR 08.”</p>

<p>However, only go to Emory if you really like the school and the atmosphere. Personally, although I loved the school, it was too expensive for me. You can get into med school wherever you go.</p>

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<p>Most private schools, at least ones in Emory’s class, allow anybody to apply. The question is, then, why does Emory have SO MANY underqualified students applying compared to its peer schools?</p>

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<p>Probably because, compared to its peer schools, Emory’s advising program just isn’t as strong. When I was there, I thought the advising was fine for my needs. In fact, I only used it minimally. Four years after applying, I now appreciate that the advising would have probably been inadequate for those students who needed more guidance and preparation. There were a lot of services available, but no encouragement to make use of them. I personally didn’t need it, but I was one of those extremely highly motivated types. </p>

<p>The fact that Emory has such a pre-professional emphasis WITHOUT good advising and guidance is probably the main reason there are so many sub-30 MCAT, sub-3.3 GPA applicants. People don’t get the grades and scores they need, but apply anyway because they’ve been “pre-med” since they stepped on campus, all their friends are pre-med too, and they didn’t get any formal advising to tell them that their application isn’t strong. </p>

<p>This is based on my experience at Emory, when you could apply completely on your own if you wanted. Now, I’ve heard that they’ve made great strides in formalizing the pre-med advising process.</p>

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<p>No, that sort of “discouragement screening” can’t be the reason either.</p>

<p>[FACTS</a> Table 2-7. Undergraduate Institutions Supplying 100 or More White Applicants to U.S. Medical Schools](<a href=“http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/mwhite08.htm]FACTS”>http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/mwhite08.htm)</p>

<p>(My apologies that I can’t get it to sort by total, but that’s the column we’re looking at here.) Emory has 300 applicants; you can see that this is not more than than most of its peer schools tends to send. See, e.g., WUSTL, Hopkins, Duke, etc.</p>

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<p>BDM, Any reason why they split it up by race like that?</p>

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<p>Where did I say that Emory has more applicants? I’m saying that of its applicants, Emory has more who shouldn’t be applying.</p>

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<p>Well, then we’re still asking the question: why does Emory have so many underqualified applicants compared to its peer schools?</p>

<p>Re: race splitting, they have it broken down for other races as well. I happened to choose this one because I figured the sorting would be least different from the total.</p>

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<p>Let me read one of the first things you say: “I have never visited the school.”</p>

<p>I think that before you decide for sure on going to Emory based on MCAT, visit the school and see if you like it. As many of pre-med and medical students can support this statement, pre-med program is stressful enough. I don’t think you will want to go through a school without even visiting it to see if you like it.</p>

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<p>If you got into Emory, then the admissions counselors believe that you have what it takes to do well there, even if you got in off the waitlist. Good luck.</p>

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<p>My position has always been, spend as much as you wish in UG in case of unlimited resources. However, why spend a lot before Medical School when $$ are limited? Med. School will cost tons, do you really want to get in debt before it? And then, only about 43% of applicants get accepted into Med. school, which adds the cost to UG. My D. took the cheap alternative at state school which has been working for her so far. Because we do not pay tuition in UG (Merit scholarships), we promised to help her out with Med. school expenses.</p>