<p>i.e. that son is "Academically Qualifed". Re the # 2 Q, Medical, we're still fighting DODMERB on his waiverable DQ (previous knew muscle surgery). </p>
<p>Anyone care to remind this old brain what the "3rd Q" is for? </p>
<p>D</p>
<p>If I am not mistaken, one of the Q's to which you refer you get by obtaining a nomination.</p>
<p>:confused: medical, physical, scholastically, i.e. the "whole person" (vs. academically) :cool: (did his letter read ... "scholastically qualified"?)</p>
<p>congrats and hang on :)</p>
<p>Is everyone supposed to get the Q letters? I'm pretty sure I'm all 3 Qualified but did not get any record. My CFA is outstanding and my Sat is 1360 with a 4.18 weighted and 3.85 unweighted gpa. Can someone tell me wut's goin on.</p>
<p>what were your son's stats for being academically qualified? (if you don't mind me asking)</p>
<p>You are only told if you are scholastically qualified. I believe it is assumed that unless you hear otherwise, and you submitted the medical/CFA, you are qualified.</p>
<p>The letter should mention that you have completed a major step in the process but are not guaranteed an appointment.</p>
<p>Yes, it was a "scholastitically" letter alone. Thin envelope - he was nervous opening it, as he had just completed a CVW the day before...</p>
<p>Son's SAT's were 720 Math 700 Essay 640 Verbal. Lots of Honor and AP classes.</p>
<p>CFA was done at NASS - can't advise score there, but they were good enough I'm sure (cross country runner, tennis, karate, etc. keep him in good shape.)</p>
<p>We're fighting thru a DODMERB waiverable DQ so we were surprised to get the "scholastic" Q letter - guess he's still under consideration :)</p>
<p>2 Senatorial interviews done, waiting for Congressmen's version (who apparently is always the last one to mail out his interview dates, etc). So far so good - the Sea Cadet uniform he wears to the interview's (3 yrs) seems to set a great first impression...</p>
<p>Hanging in there - thanks for replies.</p>
<p>Dknightfam</p>
<p>Academically qualified means meets minimum criteria for admission, including appropriate coursework, GPA and an acceptable SAT and/or ACT score.</p>
<p>Medically means cleared by DODMERB.</p>
<p>Physically means meets the minimum criteria on the CFA.</p>
<p>Some applicants have received a "triple Q" letter early in the process. My mid, who required a medical waiver, only received a letter indicating academic qualification. The waiver letter he received (after he applied for it and provided evidence that challenged the DoDMERB results) stated that if he came in line for an appointment, he would not be disqualified due to medical reasons.</p>
<p>Good Luck.
CM</p>
<p>i just got that letter today. it states "The Admissions Board has reviewed your record and has determined you are scholastically qualified to compete for an appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy Class of 2011. This completes a major step in obtaining an appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy but by no means guarantees admission to the Naval Academy."</p>
<p>Not an LOA, but good enough for me. I'm sure I didn't get a triple qualified letter because I have yet to finish my dodmerb exam (Just finished my remedial tests yesterday), and waiting on word from my congressman/senator. Finished interview two weeks ago with my congressman, senators are not doing an interview process.</p>
<p>The nom in not part of being triple Q'ed. It's scholastic, med, phys fitness.</p>
<p>Then with a nomination one becomes fully qualified to compete for an appointment.</p>
<p>My son just got his today stating he was scholastically qualified. Does that mean his SAT's, etc, were good or just his grades (gpa)? Is there a big book that falls out of the sky to answer all of these questions for parents? No, i'm not talking about reef points.</p>
<p>Okay, another thought (can't use too many of those, since I just got home from work). Same thing with the thin envelope. A little nerve wracking there. The boy took off into another part of the house to open it. He has done his dodmerb and was deemed "qualified." He keeps doing his CFA, since he has upper body strength issues (skinny, skinny, skinny, but runs like the wind). He has a nomination. What exactly does all of this mean? Do I still keep holding my breath?</p>
<p>Help.</p>
<p>Yes - I think we are supposed to keep holding our breath. My calculations tell me that if you are fully qualified and have a nomination and the nomination is competitive, you have a 10% chance, assuming all 10 nominees are qualified like you. Your odds go up if some are not, and it would appear based on the numbers (around 4000 nominations eah year and around 2000 qualified) that qualification runs at a 50% rate of nominations....so if that's true, then you move to a 20% chance (1 out of 5). If you don't make that cut then I read somewhere that there is a pool where the remaining appointments are from....I guess you have to float to the top there to get the nod....I have no idea what those stats are!
So yes, keep holding your breath (until I-day I think)!!</p>
<p>"So yes, keep holding your breath (until I-day I think)!!"</p>
<p>That is soooo true! At the parents brief at CVW all of these questions will be asked in many different ways and the answer will always be to same...they will never be answered and the mystery of admissions will still be the big secret! </p>
<p>...And it remains a mystery even after the Appointment and I-Day.</p>
<p>jerseynbg,</p>
<p>If a candidate is qualified and has a nomination, he/she has a 75-80 percent probability of obtaining an appointment.</p>
<p>THEN, once you get the appointment, you can hold your breath and hope:</p>
<p>That no injuries occur between appointment and I-day
No disqualification is found on I-day
No washout during Plebe summer
First PRT is passed during the fall semester
He/She wants to go back after Christmas break
He/She wants to go back after Plebe year
He/She wants to go back after summer cruise
He/She wants to sign the commitment papers after two years . . . </p>
<p>It goes on and on and on and on . .
All you can do is hold your breath and hope you don't pass out somewhere along the way!</p>
<p>Great American - I agree with your numbers on the larger scale, but I thought I read somewhere on here that you are 'reviewed' within your nominating source 'pool' for an appointment so that was why having more than one nomination was good because you could get reviewed more than once and maybe float to the top in one of those 'pools'. </p>
<p>My son has 3 nominations, but I would have to say that his chances are at best 20%. Based on all the stats posted here, his SATs, GPA, APs (ran out of acronyms!) etc. are just above average and although he has 'check marks' against many variables on the class profile, I'm not sure how those points stack up (for example, he has Boys State, NJROTC, officer in a club, athletics, etc...) in the weighting. (Can you tell I was a statistics major?!)</p>
<p>Do you know some other way to calculate this? I'll just keep holding my breath just in case!</p>
<p>^^^^^
If a candidate doesn't get selected for an appointment to fill a slot from their nominating source they end up in a general pool that is used to meet the 1200+ midshipmen required for a particular class. When you look at the probabilities from a macro point-of-view, 75-80 percent is the right number.</p>
<p>The probability of filling a MOC's slot on a competitive basis is 10 percent. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter where the nomination came from or what category is "charged" for a particular appointment. Getting an appointment is the objective.</p>
<p>I believe both observations are "right." Clearly the USNA officials prefer to retain much of the mystery that seems to keep further analyses at bay, or at least wanting for more breakout of the numbers.</p>
<p>At our house, for sanity's sake as much as anything, we prefer the cautious, yet half-filled glass ... that IF our #1 candidate gets triple Q'ed (he is) and IF he gets a nomination (his sources don't announce until next month), he stands a pretty good shot. In fact about 80% chance of receiving an appointment.</p>
<p>One other way to view the even more cautious, half-empty glass portrayed by jerseynbg, is that using the 10-20% appointment probability would mean that 80-90% of the noms DO NOT get an appointment. And what it seems we do know is ... that's not the case. </p>
<p>We know that over half of those nominees WILL NOT become triple Qed, if history holds true. </p>
<p>Rather, returning to GA's perspective, once one is triple Qed AND has a nomination of any kind ... it's a roughly 80% chance he/she will be sweating it out come I Day.</p>
<p>I think this is what I think. Help us out, those who know better truth.</p>
<p>Whistle Pig you are on the right track but look at it this way...80% of those with nominations will get an appointment...but your "individual probability" has to be closer to what jerseynbg is looking at. If you are only reviewed with in your nominating sources, which was definitely confirmed when we were at CVW, then it depends how you stack up in that pool and how many pools you are in. We know that 80% of your individual MOC's nominations do not get appointments, now grant it there are those on that slate who will not be 3Q'd but again at the CVW they did say that if you are 4 or 5 down the list and 3Q'd chances could be slim, especially if you are on a very competitive slate...but then none of us know where we are on the slates unless it was sent in order or you are a primary, which in that case if you are the primary and 3Q'd your probability is at 100%. </p>
<p>80% of those with nominations that are 3Q'd will get an appointment; "your probability" of receiving that appointment (being in that 80%) lies somewhere between x% and 100%!</p>