Just returned from overnights ... Hendrix & Rhodes

<p>Very long ... my apologies!</p>

<p>We've just returned home and boy, have our opinions changed since before DD did these overnights. </p>

<p>Wednesday
We left Wednesday around midday and drove to Conway, Arkansas (~6 hours) for DD to do an overnight at Hendrix College. Although the books all made it sound like a perfect fit, DH and I were secretly hoping she would fall in love more with Rhodes or Centre (what can I say ... they're closer to home). WELL, let me just say that we are ALL sold 100% on Hendrix. WOW!</p>

<p>We had called prior to our scheduled time to let them know that traffic in Little Rock had slowed us down and we would be approximately 30 minutes late. When we arrived, DD's host had needed to leave for a brief meeting, so a senior male representative, who now feels like a family friend, suggested he help DD carry her belongings to host's dorm and meet up with her there, but not before we were all invited to sit down and just chat about what type of school DD was looking for. From the moment we arrived on the Hendrix campus, we were made to feel so very comfortable and welcome. DH and I were fully prepared to do nothing more than drop her off and pick her up as was suggested in the "Overnight Visit ... What to Expect" thread a few days ago, however they were having none of that. They suggested DH and I return the next morning at 9:30 so we could speak with the admissions counselor, as well as a Hendrix student, while DD attended a class.</p>

<p>The moment DH and I got in the car, we both claimed to know that Hendrix is the school for our daughter. We had both hoped so much that she wouldn't love it, but we came away loving the school and its people as much as DD did. We went to dinner and then on to the hotel, trying to familiarize ourselves with a town that we feel we may very well see in the future.</p>

<p>Thursday
We arrived at the admissions office at 9:30 as instructed. DD met us there and excitedly spoke of the great fun she'd had at Hendrix so far, but didn't get to talk too much before being whisked away to class. She chose "Vietnam in the 60's" - you'd have to know her to know what a perfect class that was for her. She was given a backpack to carry on campus and was encouraged to use the notebook to take notes in class. I thought this was a great idea, as carrying the backpack is supposed to give them more of a sense of belonging. Not only was DD able to read what previous prospective students had written in the notebook, she was able to tell of her own experience for future prospective students. </p>

<p>While DD attended class, DH and I met with the admissions counselor who was wonderful and friendly, and suggested to DH and I that there would be some wonderful scholarship opportunities for DD. The atmosphere was relaxed and friendly and we felt so very comfortable there. We were then introduced to a junior female who couldn't have had more in common with our daughter. She is majoring in international studies and political science just as DD plans to do and will then go on to law school (just as DD plans). She's very involved in young Democrats and mock trial (just like DD!). The only thing they didn't have in common was their height (the other girl has about 6" on DD). When DD returned from class, the student who had been speaking to us introduced herself to DD and advised the admissions counselor she was going to skip a function she'd planned to attend at noon so she could tour the campus and go to lunch with us. She showed us around campus and we all met up with the admissions counselor for lunch. We spoke about campus activities, etc. and we were told that Hendrix has a social committee for the entire student body. They do not have sororities or fraternities, something that was sweet music to DD's ears. DH and I were both involved in the greek system at our alma mater, but DD really has no interest. We returned to the admissions building and DD had her interview. She then went to another building where she met with one of the professors and spoke about some of their programs, including study abroad. When she returned, we all said our final goodbyes and felt like we were leaving newly-found friends.</p>

<p>As we pulled away, DD couldn't contain herself and proclaimed that she had found the school for her! She told us of the activities in which she had participated the night before - dinner with several students, taking part in throwing a student in the fountain (a birthday tradition), going to a concert and playing volleyball. She told us that numerous students introduced themselves to her on campus as well as in the classroom and the professors made her feel welcome. She soon fell asleep from exhaustion and we made our way back to Memphis for her overnight at Rhodes. It's funny because after we passed Memphis on our way to Conway, we talked about how unsightly (sorry, I'm just being honest) the scenery is between Memphis and Conway. Somehow, on the way back, that didn't seem so noticeable.</p>

<p>Thursday (cont.)
We arrived at the campus of Rhodes. Wow, it's every bit as gorgeous as we remember it being when we visited last year. The buildings are all architecturally similar, and the stained glass windows are beautiful. We entered the admissions building where we were met by a student working the front desk. He was very kind and advised that DD's host should be there any moment. He chatted with us for a while and offered to answer any questions we might have. DD's host arrived very soon thereafter with a friend in tow, and I just had a feeling she wasn't the right girl for DD to experience an overnight. Both girls were very kind, though, and offered to help DD get her things from the car. I knew when they placed her things in a car that was covered in sorority letters that she might not have the best experience. As DH and I got into our car, we both muttered "uh-oh". I almost expected a call later asking to be rescued. No rescue needed as her host promptly dropped her off at her place (a townhouse that is campus housing) and left her alone while she went to a sorority sing practice. Fortunately, one of the six girls who lived in the townhouse wasn't a sorority member and she quickly befriended DD. They went to Sonic and sat around and talked and DD said she had a good time. The next morning, she went to breakfast and then was pointed in the direction of her class (Intro to Political Science). She said no one acknowledged her on the way to class, nor did any of the students speak to her as they came into the classroom. She said the professor rushed in to the room, announced there would be a quiz, and looked at her as though he didn't recognize her, but didn't say anything to her. She then went up and introduced herself. He encouraged her to ask or answer any questions during the class time. DD became involved in the discussion and felt good that she knew what they were talking about as they were covering something in class which she had studied in her Government class a couple of weeks ago.</p>

<p>DH and I waited patiently for a call from DD telling us she was ready to go, as we had not been invited by anyone to do otherwise. She had her interview with a lady who was reportedly very nice, and spoke with someone in financial aid for approximately two minutes. We met her in the admissions office where our presence went unnoticed. We were ready to leave, but needed something to do for the next 45 minutes since the townhouse where she stayed is enclosed with a locked gate and her host (the real one who entertained her, not the "official" host whom she saw once) was in class til nearly noon. We decided to visit the new library and it is absolutely gorgeous! After a few minutes there, we walked the campus a bit more and went back to the townhouse. We thanked the girl who had so graciously entertained DD, gathered her things and left the campus. </p>

<p>As we got in the car, DD said it was amazing that the school that had been #1 on her list for so long had suddenly plummeted ... off the list period. Her impression of the school itself was preppy, stuffy and unfriendly. I asked her if she felt it was cliquish and she said no, because a clique would infer that only a few people were that way and she had the impression that the majority of students at the school were that way.</p>

<p>I can only say that I am a huge proponent of the overnight visit. She is planning an overnight to Centre next semester. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it goes well, but I find myself perfectly thrilled in the thought that Hendrix is now #1 on her list.</p>

<p>We hung out in Memphis till today as DD wanted to spend last evening with friends from Memphis whom she had met at Governor's School this summer. We had a nice time, but DH became ill and we are happy to be home. :)</p>

<p>Great Report Splash Mom! Sounds like a wonderful college, and great fit for your D!</p>

<p>Good report SplashMom - that's waht overnights are for!</p>

<p>Splashmom,</p>

<p>Thanks so much for the report! I think I can understand what you meant about the cliquishness of Rhodes. S1 was put off also by the seeming confined feeling of the campus, everything being so very close together. It does have much to commend it, but not just the thing for your kid (or mine, finally!) </p>

<p>So glad you and DD found Hendrix so wonderful. We know several kids were are there now and who absolutely loved it. The price is nice, too!
I really am thrilled for you that it went so well, and know that the overnight experience was crucial. Thanks for sharing it all in such detail!</p>

<p>Oh, momofthree, you and I have talked so much about Rhodes. I truly envisioned DD there ... I was sure that's where she would go, but after seeing her reaction at Hendrix, it is now difficult to imagine her anywhere else. </p>

<p>I can't stress it enough ... encourage those overnight visits!</p>

<p>What was your take on the iron fence around the campus perimeter? DH & DD made the trip this summer for a preview day and agreed the campus itself it gorgeous, the buildings quite interesting, but DH was concerned about what the fence was keeping out.</p>

<p>On the other hand, we'd driven around Hendrix last Dec on our way home from the holidays - since it was Dec 28 there were no offices open or students around. Glad to hear you thought so well of it.</p>

<p>Splash:</p>

<p>Hendrix is one of several small LACs that shows up quite high on the PhD productivity lists, #37 in overall per capita PhD production over the most recent 10 year period. 8.7% of Hendrix grads went on to get PhDs, the same percentage as Case Western, Johns Hopkins, and St. Olaf.</p>

<p>This group of schools (Earlham, Kalamazoo, Beloit, St. Olaf, Hendrix, Occidental, Knox, Whitman, etc.) must be doing something right, academically. Something tells me that Loren Pope has spent some time looking at the same PhD productivity lists.</p>

<p>I am currently a freshman at Hendrix College all the way from NJ so if you have any questions I would be happy to help out...then again it looks like her mind is set..:) Good luck and just know I am here to help.</p>

<p>Hi, Splashmom! I'm glad your daughter has found her "perfect fit" - Hendrix sounds absolutely amazing! I'm sad we won't have any more great chats on the Rhodes forum, maybe we can drift over to the Hendrix forum.</p>

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Something tells me that Loren Pope has spent some time looking at the same PhD productivity lists

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Absolutely. In Pope's "other" book, Beyond the Ivy League, he devotes several pages to a discussion of these lists and others (Who's Who entries, scores on MCAT's, etc.).</p>

<p>hws56, I always thought the iron fence complemented the buildings, but I never thought much beyond that until we had to have someone let us in and out when retrieving our daughter's belongings from the campus townhouse where she stayed. As a parent, I'm glad to see that safety is considered, but it saddens me to think the fences must have been needed.</p>

<p>interesteddad, I had not seen those specific numbers, but the stats we've recently read and heard of have impressed us, too. Thanks for sharing those stats.</p>

<p>valuable1212, while looking at the map in the admissions office the other day, DD was invited to stick a pin in the area representing where we live. We were speaking of students who had come from other states and it was mentioned tht a girl from New Jersey was now attending school there, but her first time on campus was the day she moved in. I'll bet that was you, huh?! Would you mind if DD pm'd you?</p>

<p>fireflyscout, I'll miss our chats on the Rhodes board, too, but we can have them elsewhere for sure. Has your DD made any decisions or narrowed her list? I hope you fared well during Rita. I'll bet you got some nasty weather, didn't you?</p>

<p>lol yes that would be me....i actually applied late to hendrix so i didnt see the campus until my first day. i would be more then happy to answer any questions. im actually about to go to lunch...it was parent weekend so the food is 10x better..hmmm maybe you guys should visit us students more often! haha
let me know if you need anything!</p>

<p>valerie</p>

<p>valuable1212's story from this past admission season is probably one of the best examples I've seen of a school getting tremendous PR -- not by looking for it, but by simply doing such a great job that people remember it and talk about it. Hendrix isn't on S' list for geographic reasons, but I kind of wish it were. I was really impressed with them.</p>

<p>If your son is worried about Arkansas tell him not to be! Believe me, you couldnt have told me four years ago that I would end up here. Plus, I know how Jersey
people react to the word Arkansas! haha It is just as nice as Georgia, TN, etc. It is just one of those states people think is full of cows and cowboys! (Sadly I thought that!) But the weather here is always warm and the people here aren't like what a teenager from the East Coast would think. It is very different, but if you are from DE, you will have celebrity status on campus lol. Being from Jersey, <em>my nickname ironically is Jersey!</em>, a lot of people think its really cool because not many people come from that far away. I promise if he visited, he may just change his mind.</p>

<p>Yes..being thrown in the fountain is a Hendrix tradition. Don't think you can get away from it either! In the cafateria there is a big board with the names of students whose birthday are on that day. They sing the Hendrix birthday cheer to you (the whole cafeteria) and give you your own personal cake! You won't be warned about being thrown in the fountain either...people pretty much get you when your walking not even thinking about it and drag you to it! I am glad my birthday is in April! The weather will be nice. Just thought I would add that.</p>

<p>No, no, it's not Arkansas per se. I grew up in Oklahoma and my parents have retired back to Grand Lake in Oklahoma. Very familiar with the area -- cows and cowboys?? What a hoot. Nobody from Oklahoma thinks that Arkansas has cows. Chickens and hillbillies, yes. Cows and cowboys, no. </p>

<p>In fact, I think my niece will be attending Hendrix next year, if all goes according to plan. </p>

<p>It's just that my DW has put down a very firm "East of the Mississippi" rule, while S has an equally firm "South -- and don't try to fool me with Kentucky and Maryland" rule. LOL.</p>

<p>Splashmom,
Hendrix is on my daughter's list and she loves what she sees on paper - but we may not be able to visit before she sends in her application. I'm so glad you wrote this review, I will be forwarding it to my daughter!
Carolyn</p>

<p>A GREAT visit description, very good insight into the process of evaluating a campus. </p>

<p>I'm a big fan of pre-application visits as well, based on how they completely changed my D's list.</p>

<p>My only demurral with SplashMom would be regarding the "click" with the host student. It's great if there's a simpatico fit between host and visitor but the absence may be due to individual chemistry--who can figure--rather than any indication about the school as a whole. In fact, I would do my best to filter <em>out</em> the reactions to the host and see what's left.</p>

<p>I tried PMing you but it says your mailbox is full and I cant write you until you make space! :)</p>

<p>Valuable, please try again - I just emptied my mailbox and my daughter is dying to talk to you!</p>