<p>I see nothing wrong with an English major cheating his way through freshman chemistry. Or a pre-med student cheating through Shakespeare. They won’t be well-rounded? Pah, I doubt the English major would have remembered much of the chemistry by the time he graduated, anyway. </p>
<p>So there’s one situation.</p>
<p>Another?
Suppose a teacher says calculator programs are not allowed because they do all the work for you, and you use one of them anyway. Evidently being able to do the material isn’t a very useful skill if the teacher can’t test it in such a way that a machine can’t simply do it all for you within seconds.</p>
<p>Piter, so you think there is nothing wrong with lying to the teacher’s face and wrecking the curve for those who actually want a good grade that they honestly earned in that English class? Just making sure I’m understanding you properly.</p>
<p>Cheating pervades every school to such a massive degree. Its a shame, especially when tattling can often even lower the teachers opinion of you. But sometimes, when I see how ****ed up the collegeboards clusterrape of exams and bureaucracy is, I can’t really blame those who do less work. Its simple Machiavellian philosophy - you got to get to college to one day support children and have a job. Should a test stand in your way?</p>
<p>“Piter, so you think there is nothing wrong with lying to the teacher’s face and wrecking the curve for those who actually want a good grade that they honestly earned in that English class? Just making sure I’m understanding you properly.”</p>
<p>If there’s a curve, there’s more of a dilemma here. I certainly would not advocate barging into a class full of people actually interested in the subject and then wrecking the curve–there are usually plenty of “101” level gen ed classes one can take which are full of people just there to fill out their gen ed credits. In my experience, these classes are also usually not curved. If you’re at a small private LAC where most of the people actually want to learn, then I’d say don’t ruin it for the rest of them. There are plenty of bigger, more impersonal universities that still get their grads equally good (and sometimes better) salaries. </p>
<p>Lying to the teacher’s face I could care less about–you’re there to get a degree to get a job, presumably. The teacher isn’t your friend or ally–he’s someone who affects your ability to get a job via the GPA.</p>
<p>I don’t necessarily support cheating, but I’m not totally against it or anything like some people on here. Also depends in many situations/forms, and what really “counts” as cheating in the first place.</p>
<p>i hate cheaters. it really shows what kind of a person they are. though it does suck for people who get into trouble also when people cheat off them. i used to have this “friend”, and she started to ask me to send my labs to her. being stupid, i sent them to her, thinking she was just going to look at my numbers and compare with hers. a few weeks later, the chair of the department contacted us about cheating. i went in alone and was showed our labs, where the girl had copied my answers word for word, being so lazy to not even change the answers into her own words. what’s worse, my answer wasn’t even right… and the girl even blamed the teacher for ratting us out. shortly before this happened, she started to annoy me a lot and i started to not like her, realizing how terrible she was. and this incident gave me a really great reason to just blow the whole “friendship” off. best thing i ever did. don’t trust cheaters. they are not your friend!</p>
<p>“who cares? u gotta do what u gotta do to survive and succeed…it’s survival of the fittest…plain and simple”</p>
<p>Ok, so what are you going to do out there outside the classroom? What are you going to do on Wall Street when your stocks go down? Digitally alter them and get arrested for fraud?</p>
<p>What are you going to do if you’re a doctor and you screw up? Is it still survival of the fittest and are you going to kill all those who are going to testify against you in malpractice court?</p>
<p>haven’t u noticed that people who come up with cheating methods are usually quite intelligent. In a way, cheaters have the potential to do extremely well without cheating. But they just don’t want to work for it. Instead, they use their brilliance to concoct plans and elude authorities. Ethics and morals are not innate, but maybe the will to surpass others is. I think that is why more and more people are cheating. Because the competition is so fierce that people are willing to discard all work ethics and academic integrity. It gets worse by the generations. My friend’s mom was willing to write his essay for English. I can imagine him doing the same for his kids.</p>
<p>It’s interesting isn’t it, how things come in shades of gray. If I were to take someone’s work–a musical composition, research, a term paper–and call it my own and benefit myself through the work of others, it is possible to see how that is wrong or unfair right? By taking another’s work, I am clearly harming another. But if I were to cheat on a test, am I harming another? I guess that depends on what you think of it. </p>
<p>Personally, I think, in the most basic of terms, society functions based on rules being followed. If I, for example, exchange my money for some service, I want what was promised by the other party. I’ve always had a sense of honesty with myself and others and I know I would see my accomplishments as hollow if I were to cheat. But then again, I guess to some people, school is mostly worthless so what you do there doesn’t matter; maybe that’s what makes sense to them.</p>
<p>It’s a good thing that at my school, the smartest and most successful academically are people who don’t cheat.</p>
<p>i saw the video on youtube. lol. i don’t think it takes 3 min and 30 seconds to describe and show how to slip a piece of paper into a clear pen. there, i just exposed her secret and all time best method. now go cheat yourselves away.</p>
<p>I can’t believe that some of you would take the time to report cheating then brag about it, like you have righted a terrible wrong in the world. No one likes a tattletale, you’ll just make enemies if you do that. Just let them fail, as they eventually will, because they aren’t hurting anyone but themselves.</p>
<p>those who say it’s okay to cheat on a test, it’s almost like you’re saying it’s okay to cheat in a relationship. different in some sense, but it’s all still cheating. and cheating can hurt other people. it’ll make them more cautious and they’ll feel less likely to trust anybody else.</p>
<p>the people who advocate cheating DONT advocate having no repercussions for the act itself.</p>
<p>i advocate cheating to some extent, but i dont care at all if you get beaten up or expelled for doing it. thats the risk you take for doing it.</p>
<p>and when i say “advocate” i dont mean i WANT people to do it. its just if they do it, then i dont care. good for them. there are indeed lots of reasons to cheat. its up to them if they want to go through with it or not.</p>