<p>I was completely shocked and sickened to hear how rampant cheating has become in schools. I knew it happened, but in this amount? Ridiculous.</p>
<p>It's</a> time to deal with students who cheat</p>
<p>The sad thing is, both times when I took the SAT, I noticed people cheating on sections. And I doubt they ever were in trouble for it.</p>
<p>Cheating is never a new thing to students. Cheaters in the long run, however, will eventually get what they deserve.</p>
<p>There is a service called TurnitIn that is used heavily at my Public
HS and a host of other schools and colleges that helps combat
the type of behavior noted in the article.</p>
<p>Technology as usual is an answer to what could become a growing
moral malaise....</p>
<p>I mean, I know that loads of students do it, but the percentage, and how administrations turn a blind eye... I dunno, maybe I'm naive</p>
<p>And my school uses TurnItIn too, but the sad thing is that in the article, teachers and principles etc refuse to acknowledge the cheating</p>
<p>"Gerald Fisher, a consulting professor of physics at Stanford, told of a student whose practice was to take an exam, then bring it back for a regrade, claiming the graders had missed material she'd written. "She did this on each of the midterms," wrote Fisher. Then, after the final, when she predictably came back for a regrade, Fisher revealed that he had photocopied her original, which lacked the material that now appeared, and filed charges against her with the Office of Judicial Affairs. </p>
<p>She was "let go scot free" and Fisher was disciplined for violating the university's honor code by copying her exam. "</p>
<p>I know a guy that has his phone out during tests and the teacher says nothing. -_-</p>
<p>In my math class, people openly cheat. I mean, they literally hand their tests to each other to copy, throw paper notes with answers in them to each other, etc.</p>
<p>75% D: damn. Maybe I am a chum for not cheating.</p>
<p>Isn't cheating on the SAT tests impossible because they have different test so if youre copying from the person sitting adjacent to you, you'll end up getting the wrong answers. Thats what I heard.</p>
<p>Its funny because cheating on the SAT is way different than cheating for school exams. In school you know whose smart and whose not but on the SATs its random people you barely know so its hard to fish out the intellegent ones versus thse who are not.</p>
<p>As a student I see so much cheating it's ridiculous. My history teacher makes us use turnitin.com on our papers to check for plagerism, but for us most people don't plagerize on papers. The cheating that goes on at our school involves tests and homework, and I'm shocked at how teachers seem to be ignorant of it. One girl positioned her backpack so that during a test she had a whole sheet of notes propped up so she could cheat, but ironically I still got a better grade then her and she eventually dropped the class.</p>
<p>I don't actually see much cheating on tests. I only know of one person and he's not in my class. The only time I see it is homework and it's not an every day thing either it's more of a, "Holy cracker I spent all my time studying for English and forgot this assignment! Someone help me out!" kind of thing. Or I see kids comparing answers in large groups, though I don't know if that really counts as cheating if they all got an answer on the homework.</p>
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Gerald Fisher, a consulting professor of physics at Stanford, told of a student whose practice was to take an exam, then bring it back for a regrade, claiming the graders had missed material she'd written. "She did this on each of the midterms," wrote Fisher. Then, after the final, when she predictably came back for a regrade, Fisher revealed that he had photocopied her original, which lacked the material that now appeared, and filed charges against her with the Office of Judicial Affairs.
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<p>I was on MIT's Committee On Discipline, and we heard some very similar types of cases.</p>
<p>I can assure you that they were not let off scot free. Far from it.</p>
<p>They weren't copying other SAT tests, they would go back to sections they hadn't finished during the test, and complete them (i.e. doing the English section while the rest of the test-takers were doing Math).</p>
<p>Some student even write answers on the palms of their hands, and just keep them flat on the desk whenever a teacher walks by. </p>
<p>And hopefully, jessiehl. It's like adults have to baby-sit students even more now, slapping their wrists when they misbehave (cheat), and reminding them it's a "no-no".</p>
<p>"The sad thing is, both times when I took the SAT, I noticed people cheating on sections. And I doubt they ever were in trouble for it."</p>
<p>Did you report them? Students who see peers cheating, but don't report them are reinforcing the cheating that's going on.</p>
<p>I called in, but I don't think any further steps were taken.</p>
<p>Cheating, so horrible. It's right up their with Darfur and Ugandan child soldiers.</p>
<p>i can honestly say that 99% of the kids at my school cheat. I have never cheated, but there are so few people in my grade that I can tell you that basically everyone cheats.</p>
<p>Cono-You really think it's okay to get a grade that you didn't legitimately earned, that could later help you get into a college you don't deserve?</p>
<p>Well at least we know where your morals lie.</p>
<p>A lot of the kids at my school cheat. They get away with it a lot of the time, but sometimes they do get caught.</p>
<p>Plus, we're not comparing it to world travesties. But we're also not saying it's perfectly fine to do, just because there are bigger things in the world that are happening. It’s like saying that a child being bullied mercilessly on a playground is no big deal, because other people have it harder. Neither is 'ok'.</p>
<p>or maybe Cono isn't being so sarcastic after all.-Just a thought.</p>
<p>"The sad thing is, both times when I took the SAT, I noticed people cheating on sections. And I doubt they ever were in trouble for it."</p>
<p>Did you report them? Students who see peers cheating, but don't report them are reinforcing the cheating that's going on."</p>
<p>Honestly Northstarmom, who would stop in the middle of taking an exam in which you have a limited amount of time to report cheaters? Reporting eats away a lot of time that could be spent doing quite a few problems that can in turn, make a difference in your score. I wouldn't really care whether or not one cheats on an SAT. It's not worth actually taking my time off to acknowledge and besides, I don't necessarily see it as condoning the cheating; rather just not acknowledging it because we all know snitching isn't cute in high school these days. </p>
<p>Overall, cheaters never prosper and unfortunately they'll just have to learn the hard way.</p>
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<p>I fear not the judgement that comes from a rider of the high horse. </p>
<p>But I'm flattered that you care to know the whereabouts a random user of the internet's morals. Of course, cheating is clearly the best determinant of morals; those kids copying the last few problems on today's math homework are tomorrow's serial killers. </p>
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<p>If one didn't know any better, it could easily be construed that way if you've seen the way some users on this forum discuss it.</p>