L&S or College of Ag & Life Sciences

<p>For degrees that are the same or similiar such as Biology or Chemistry vs. Biochemistry: What is the better track for incoming freshman? What school offers better scholarships to incoming freshman and what school offers better advising for pre-med or pharmacy career minded students?</p>

<p>First- you get admitted to the university as a whole, regardless of intended major or school/college planned on.</p>

<p>None will be likely to offer incoming freshmen any scholarship money, typically departments give scholarship money to students in the major, not freshmen. Those would also be rare.</p>

<p>Biochemistry can be majored in through either L&S or CALS (Ag)- see the UW undergrad biochem site for details on the reqs. Chemistry is in L&S as are biology majors- such as botany or zoology, you don’t do a general biology major at UW. As a freshman you will likely take the same courses for any of those majors your first semester. Biocore, the Honors biology sequence has chemistry prerequisites. </p>

<p>Once you are at UW you will determine your major based on which one you like best. You can explore the UW website to check on pharmacy school reqs. You can check the premed page for medical school reqs.</p>

<p>From the …mom in your name I suspect you may be a parent. I am a parent, was a UW chemistry major, and am an MD. Your child will first get admitted to UW, then choose courses at SOAR with an advisor and take it from there. Once on campus s/he will learn the ropes and decide which major to pursue et al. Nothing needs to be decided before freshman year since all areas you mention can start with the same courses.</p>

<p>Thanks wis75. I guess I wasn’t specific enough. S has been admitted and has reqs to apply for the scholarships offered out of L&S or College of Ag. Older son is a general biology major out of College of Ag and has received scholarships (small ones but helpful) . I was wondering if anyone had experience with the scholarships offered out of L&S and if they were comparable to College of Ag.</p>

<p>btw- regarding advising. Premed is not a major but there is information on a UW site and the advice is regardless of major. Likewise for pre-anything, the advisors will not be connected with a major. The advisors for any major will be in that field and know about it but not be spending their time getting to know how best to do nonmajor careers. Therefore the major will not matter for premed et al advising.</p>

<p>For scholarships- you know more than many do. You and your son will need to peruse the scholarship site and spend the time ferreting out the best choices to apply for. From what I have read on CC UW does not make it easy with one general scholarship app- the student has to find them- better than past years where they weren’t even organized on one site.</p>

<p>Ag does have more scholarships per student than L&S and several majors do cross over such as biochemistry and other life sciences. I am not sure of any qualitative differences of being under one school or the other but Ag being smaller has better personal attention and “better” advising. It also maintains its own placement office which is a big plus. I think you have found a nice niche and I have recently mentioned this here in a discussion of scholarships. Next time I get back to Madison I am going to try to find out what differences if any there are between similar majors in the two schools.</p>

<p>Degree requirements are different for each school. L & S has a world language requirement to graduate along with certain distribution requirements. There is no language requirement to graduate from the School of Ag, and I don’t think they have distribution requirements but they have some specific classes that are required, such as chemistry.</p>

<p>The have very similar distribution requirements except the foreign language.
SECTION 1 - COLLEGE REQUIREMENTS
These requirements apply to all degrees in the College. The courses required in
this section also meet UW General Education Requirements. A course taken to
satisfy a requirement in Section I may also be used to satisfy one, but only one,
requirement in another section of the curriculum. Departments may specify somewhat
different courses to satisfy the requirement in each sub-section.</p>

<p>Communication (I.C.)
____ Must complete one University Com A course and one University Com B course.</p>

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<p>Mathematics (I.V., I.B., IV.A.)
Required:
_____ MATH 112 and 113, OR MATH 114, OR may be satisfied by placement exam</p>

<h2>_____ MATH 221 and 222, OR MATH 275 and 276, or MATH 171 and 217 and 222</h2>

<p>COURSES MAY ONLY BE USED ONCE WITHIN THESE CATEGORIES (I.E.1.-I.E.4.)</p>

<p>Econ or Ag and Applied Econ (I.E.1.)
_____ 3 credits required from: ECON 101, 102, 111, AAE 215</p>

<p>Ethnic Studies (I.E.2.)
_____ 3 credits required from any course classified as “e”</p>

<p>Humanities (I.E.3.)
_____ 6 credits required from any course classified as H, L, or Z</p>

<p>Social Science (I.E.4.)
_____ 3 credits required from any course classified as S or Z - but not </p>

<h2> Econ or Ag and Applied Econ</h2>

<p>International Studies (I.H.)
A course satisfying this requirement may also meet one, but only one, other
curricular requirement, including one other requirement in Section I.</p>

<p>3 credits required from this list. </p>

<p>____ A A E 344, 350, 374, 462, 473, 474, 567
AGRONOMY 377
AN SCI 370
ANTHRO 100, 104, 260, 277, 318, 327, 357, 358, 470
ATM OCN 121, 132
C&E SOC (formerly RUR SOC) 222, 230, 260, 613, 630
ECON 467, 474, 552, 567
ENTOM 201, 371
F&W ECOL 360, 430, 450, 452
GEOG 120, 127, 139, 244, 260, 349, 353, 355, 538
HISTORY 103, 104, 142, 242, 260, 277, 349, 359, 410, 419, 436, 440, 441,
444, 445, 446, 458
INTL BUS 200
L SC COM 340
JOURN 621
MARKETNG 420<br>
NUTR SCI 350
POLI SCI 103, 106, 222, 244, 252, 253, 254, 260, 261, 277, 312, 331, 333,
338, 339, 342, 346, 362, 379, 505, 618, 620, 621, 627, 630, 633, 639,
640, 642, 650, 651, 652, 655, 659, 660, 661, 663, 665
SOC 244, 252, 260, 277, 614, 634 </p>

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<p>SECTION 2 - DEGREE REQUIREMENTS
These requirements apply to all Natural Science Degrees.
Different departments may specify somewhat different courses.</p>

<p>Chemistry (I.D., IV.C., IV.D.)
One of the following groups required:
_____ CHEM 109 and CHEM 327 or 329
_____ CHEM 103 and CHEM 104 and CHEM 327 or 329
AND</p>

<h2>_____ CHEM 343 and 344 and 345</h2>

<p>Physics (IV.B.)</p>

<h2>_____ Two courses required from: PHYSICS 207 and 208, OR 201 and 202</h2>

<p>Biological Science (IV.E, IV.F.)
One of the following groups required:
_____ BIOCORE 301 and 303 and 323 and 333
_____ Two labs courses from: BIOCORE 302, 304, 324</p>

<p>OR
_____ BOTANY/ZOOLOGY 151, 152
_____ 6 credits of advanced genetics, bacteriology, botany, physiology, or zoology as</p>

<h2>approved by advisor </h2>

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<p>SECTION 3 - MAJOR REQUIREMENTS</p>

<p>Major (IV.G.)</p>

<p>Physical chemistry required:
_____ 5 credits from: CHEM 563, 565 </p>

<p>AND</p>

<p>Biochemistry – One group required:</p>

<p>Group 1:
_____ BIOCHEM 507
_____ BIOCHEM 508
_____ BIOCHEM 651 (3 credits required)</p>

<p>OR</p>

<p>Group 2:
_____ BIOCHEM 501<br>
_____ BIOCHEM 651 (3 credits required)<br>
_____ 2 credits from the following: BIOCHEM 299, 375, 399, 510, 550, 575, 601,
612, 620, 621, 624, 625, 630, 636, 660, 681, 682, 691, 692, 699</p>

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<p>Capstone Experience (I.I.)</p>

<p>_____ BIOCHEM 651 (3 credits required)</p>

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<p>Electives</p>

<p>The student may complete this section with any courses. </p>

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<p>SPECIAL NOTES: For the Bachelor of Science Degree, students must complete
a minimum of 124 credits with at least a 2.0 cumulative GPA. Students must
take their last 30 credits in residence while officially enrolled in the
College of Agricultural and Life Sciences. Degree credit will be granted
only once for courses that are repeated. Other degree requirements are
outlined in the Undergraduate Catalog.</p>

<p>Comments:<br>
Date of Audit:
Degree credits to date:<br>
Biochemistry (ANS)
Effective Summer 2010 through Spring 2011</p>

<p>Regarding foreign (world) languages- everyone has the same UW admission requirement, and typical admitted student courses in HS. Many/most students meet the L&S language requirement through their HS course work.</p>