Legacy vrs Awesomeness?

Colleges and Universities A-Z Johns Hopkins University
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<p>So theres this kid at my school, same grade, we're both full IB diploma, he's a guy, i'm a girl (from iran) and turns out he's applying ED too</p>

<p>He has three legacies. </p>

<p>However, I've had:
-Three jobs
-Strong EC (and commitment)
-I'm Artistic
-Play Guitar/Played violin
-Great Essays
-Over 500 hours of volunteering</p>

<p>We have about the same SATs (I think mine will be the same as him) (1700-1800)
And he has a higher GPA
However, I had 2.2 f, 4.0 s, 4.0 j</p>

<p>Given the fact that he's probably going to have a good essay too and have jobs, ec... who do you guys think is going to have a better chance of getting in? I mean, I'm the better candidate I think, but he has the three legacies (and hes not that great of a kid)</p>

<p>I'm worried though, because no every one in our class knows now and a couple of people said i'm going to get in, but alot of people said he's going to get in- </p>

<p>Thank god the majority of our class is applying ED to either william and mary and UVA. If there were more EDs for JHU, I'd kill myself.</p>

<p>The more important question though, how important is legacy (ESP 3!) in making a decision? I hate legacy points, its not fair.</p>

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<p>Do I know this person?</p>

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<p>Yes I think you do.</p>

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<p>cool im iranian too. i think you have a good chance. he probably does too. what state are you from?</p>

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<p>My money is on the kid with the legacy. your EC is strong but not amazing enough to beat his triple legacy(plus ED legacy are pretty huge).</p>

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<p>But on college board, legacy is only considered and not an important admission factor like EC and volunteering etc...</p>

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<p>I've read a study and they say legacy is almost equal to +400 points on your SAT(my number may be slightly off). but the trend is this.... colleges never say minorities or legacy is a big factor because they never want you to feel like you're at a major disadvantage. I've talked to many many kids who got accepted to schools like Harvard. When I asked them what they got on their SATs, they replied with a score like 1800. everytime they said they got an 1800 SAT score, they're a URM. so far its been 100% of the time. I'm not saying you don't have a chance, but i see that the kid with the legacy just has a higher chance.</p>

<p>oh and legacies are a huge bonus.. not to mention THREE legacies.</p>

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<p>He's an awful kid tho =( </p>

<p>I deserve it more than him</p>

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<p>Am I missing something? Isn't 1700-1800 on the new SAT scale equivalent to 1170-1200 on the old SAT scale? This would be way below the bottom 25% range, no? Otherwise, you can both get in.</p>

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<p>I was thinking the same thing about the SATs. Neither of you is a lock with SATs well below the average.</p>

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<p>Neither of you is a lock with SATs well below the average.</p>

<p>what do you mean?</p>

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<p>He means you need to increase your score if you wanna get a higher chance.</p>

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<p>the average SAT scores for this school is around 2130 (rough estimate), so a score of 1800 is quite lower than the average. Legacy or URM would help a lot. With a 1800 score that you have, you really have to polish that essay.</p>