<p>My son applied to just one option
At NYU- Liberal studies core in London
He didn’t want to go to NY his freshman
Year. He had other nice choices, ACT was 33 but
Was very happy when he was accepted
Liked the core idea… And London</p>
<p>He is unaware that many…most?
Of his fellow students are in the
Program because they were placed there
Not by choice. He’s a great kid
I am troubled by the fact that NYU
Didn’t spell out all the aspects of
The program in the application information.
I’ve read these posts but he is completely
Unaware. Any information on how many
Kids pick this program on their own?</p>
<p>Can you be placed into LSP if you are planning to be majoring in journalism? I’m still a little confused on how LSP works, but I’ll be happy if I get in nevertheless. My GPA is under NYU’s average :P</p>
<p>@helloparis I’m in the same boat as you. I’m applying ED for journalism and I’d be fine with being put into LSP so long as I can study at the Washington Square campus. Anyone know if this is possible? Do ED applicants get defered to to LSP?</p>
<p>Also, what’s your GPA if you don’t mind me asking. Mine’s below average as well at a 3.64 UW and a 4.25 W. Do you have any journalism accolades or anything? I’m sure that would help you as well.</p>
<p>@Correkid I think you can study at the Washington Square campus your sophomore year, but your freshman year has to be abroad at either Paris, London, Shanghai, ect? I’m not exactly sure though! It’s a bit confusing. I really hope that ED applicants can get defered to LSP… <em>wishful thinking</em></p>
<p>Wow, 3.64 unweight is great! I had a 3.5 unweighted first semester junior year, but my second semester I ended up a 3.4 unweighted sadly. You seem to have a better chance then me though, so I think you’re absolutely fine! Right now I’m trying to bring up my SAT to balance out my horrible GPA, lol. I am hoping my essays and extracurriculars will demonstrate my passion for journalism, most of my ECs are all journalism-related (writer of personal fashion blog, editor in chief of my online fashion magazine, intern at an online fashion mag, some more ect). And nope I have no journalism accolades! D:</p>
<p>My son applied directly to the Core Program because it was listed on the Common Ap without any indication that it was “different” from the other programs. Sure, he could have done more research, but at the time he thought the description seemed like the best program for him. Once he was accepted (without any sort of financial aid) we were unsettled by some of the things we read about the LSC program. The faculty are not tenured but are hired as lecturers. Not to say they are not highly qualified, but they are hired to teach rather than participate in research. Second, we worried that the courses offered during the first 2 years may not transfer to other colleges should he decide NYU is not for him. I guess the bottom line is that he felt duped, applying for a program and finding out later that it is not considered as rigorous as the other colleges at NYU.</p>
<p>I, along with 15 other students currently in LSP, are documenting everything we know about it. If you need advice, have comments, questions, or concerns, please go to out Tumblr page and ask us something! It can be done anonymously, too!</p>
<p>I’m really confused. I want to apply to NYU as a freshman. I’m an international student. I want to apply to CAS. However, I read about the Liberal Arts Program, and it seems to be amazing. But some of you guys talked about this program as something that is not as good as being accepted to CAS.
I still don’t know if I should apply to LSP. What do you think?</p>
<p>I am a current LSP student spending her freshman year in Paris. There does seem to be a negative connotation behind the LS program but, from my experience, it is a great program. The classes are very small (my largest class is maybe 20 students), reading and discussion-based (only one class uses a textbook and that is barely used anyway), and I am really enjoying them. The only downside to LSP is if you are interested in transferring to Stern because the core requirements with LS may make it more difficult to do so.</p>
<p>It really depends on what kind of educational experience you are looking for your first two years of university and what you plan to major in.</p>
<p>If you have any questions please feel free to ask me.</p>
<p>If you’re looking to transfer to Stern after LSP you need to take Calc I ASAP and then Sophmore year, fill almost all of your electives with Stern classes. </p>
<p>Also, Stern isn’t a direct transfer from LSP so you’d have to actually apply for internal transfer (and compete against other transfer students) so, I’m not really sure how all of that pans out. </p>
<p>I’m interested in transferring to Stern so I guess we’ll see. </p>
<p>As far as LSP goes… and I’m being 100% honest here because I don’t want to sugarcoat it. Had I known exactly what it was & how it limits me academically, I don’t think I would have come to NYU. </p>
<p>Yes, class sizes are small. It’s nice. Yes, the classes are alright (Very broad to give you an idea of what you’re interested in, I suppose). Yes, they’re discussion-based and you get to know the professor and the people in the class more than you would in a lecture. However, keep in mind that eventually you WON’T be in small classes. Essentially, to me, it’s kind of like high school (with harder coursework). </p>
<p>It just really, REALLY depends on what you’re looking for in your college experience. If you know what you want to major in, being in LSP might bother you because the first year you only have two elective slots. And you absolutely cannot transfer out, so you have to finish the two years before you can completely pursue your intended major (although second year is much more flexible, 3 electives per semester).</p>
<p>See, this is where this program doesn’t make a ton of sense to me. I applied to CAS for Political Science and I thought I was highly qualified. My essay was well thought out, I’ve got a 3.9 unweighted GPA, 31 on ACT, near 2200 SAT scores, I’m fluent in French (not due to my family, due to studies), hold down a job, do theatre, tons of community service and I’m very well rounded as a high school student.
I’m thinking that the Core program is more of a requirement-y thing than anything else. For instance, I didn’t take any government or economics classes in high school because I’m an international baccalaureate (IB) student and they regulate all my classes. I’ve got credits from 2-3 years of calculus and 3 years of intense biology, but nothing that really commits to what I want to study, which is government/poli-sci.
That, and on every acceptance letter I’ve gotten, it says something about Liberal Arts. I was accepted to PSU Liberal Arts College. UMass Amherst Liberal Arts. I heard somewhere that Liberal Arts seems to be a requirement for freshman/incoming students, and if that’s so, than it makes sense for us all to be put into the Core program.</p>
<p>All LS Core Program students are expected to continue in a bachelors degree program at NYU. Sophomores may continue as juniors in GLS or they may choose to transition to one of NYUs liberal arts bachelors degree programs in the College of Arts and Science and the Gallatin School of Individualized Study, or degree programs in the Preston Robert Tisch Center for Hospitality, Tourism and Sports Management, the Silver School of Social Work, and the College of Nursing, as well as selected majors in the Tisch School of the Arts and the Steinhardt School of Culture, Education, and Human Development. In order to transition seamlessly, students must meet specific program requirements and be in good academic standing at the end of sophomore year, typically defined as a minimum 2.0 GPA.</p>
Clearly you are all hs students, and you know absolutely nothing about college admissions. The lsp program is not “community college” that’s the craziest assumption I’ve ever heard. It has its own academic staff and is fully a part of NYU. Just so you’re all clear, it is the largest college the first 2 years. It’s not some bottom 5 percent thing. It is just for people who they think will do well in a smaller setting than a larger one. It is also because not enough people apply directly into it, which is possible, and so if you want to be accepted at all they give you another school option. You are part of the accepted class, so calm down. You can be in LSP/core and apply to be in the honors program and all the various other groups. About the person who said people think your dumb, I don’t know what other forums you’ve been reading, but if they’re as totally inaccurate as this one, then I see why you got that understanding. There are lots of stereotypes at NYU, and that’s hardly one of them considering, again, it’s the largest group of students freshmen/sophomore year. Also, if stereotypes are what you care about in college, than your maturity level should probably increase. If it makes you feel better, when you graduate, no one is going to ask about LSP, and all that matters is your choice of NYU college in the end. If you think getting smaller classes is a negative because you feel dumb, then you need to learn a thing or two about college. Large class sizes are what draw people away from NYU, and having professors who can write you letters of rec your first 2 years is a huge privilege. Everyone else is only close to their TAs, who are only masters/PHD students because their lectures are 100-200 people. Also, it’s not that you spend your first 2 years not doing your major courses. Everyone has the exact same amount of core classes they have to do in all the colleges. You take 2 writing seminars, 2-3 cultural studies type courses, 2-3 philosophy-type courses, and 2 sciences. You just take them in smaller classes where you don’t have to attend recitation. Literally, there is no down side. The rest of your courses your first 2 years are anything you want. The only difference is where if you weren’t in LSP you could space all those courses in the 4 years, you are mandated to take them your first 2. Here’s a hint, nearly everyone takes them in their first 2 anyway because you don’t want to be a senior in a 101 class of nearly all freshmen. Also, to go on to courses that are higher in scale, you need the 101s anyway. In summation, calm down and congratulations.
The post above is the most useful I’ve read. So can you tell me how the LSP and GSP are the same or different?
Do either end in more job prospects? I am a bit confused but was thrilled to be accepted today.
Right now I’m trying to bring up my SAT to balance out my horrible GPA, lol. I am hoping my essays and extracurriculars will demonstrate my passion for journalism, most of my ECs are all journalism-related (writer of personal fashion blog, editor in chief of my online fashion magazine, intern at an online fashion mag, some more ect). And nope I have no journalism accolades! D:</p>