Liberal Studies Program

<p>I have just received a letter from NYU, stating that I was denied direct admission to the College of Arts and Science but then, they offered me admission to the Liberal Studies Program. </p>

<p>So, I was wondering. Is this Liberal Studies Program any good? I mean, the feeling that they are giving me by saying "however we can offer you admission to the Liberal studies Program" makes it sound like it's just a downgraded version of what I originally applied for and sort of a way to make me not feel as bad about getting denied so I decided to do some research about this program. Many people are saying that this program is good but I don't get it, if I had such great marks and supplementals, why was I denied entrance into the College of Arts and Sciences instead of granted admission to this "special" course??</p>

<p>Please enlighten me as I still don't see the point of rejecting me into my first choice, and putting me into this "excellent" program. If I wasn't good enough for normal programs, what makes me fit for this? Thanks in advance.</p>

<p>I know a lot of people in LSP, and they all really like it. From what I’ve seen (and this is just based on my own observations), it seems like the people placed into LSP were lacking in one particular aspect of their application, like their essays or SAT scores or something like that, but were still very strong candidates overall. It also seems like they try to pick people who would, for whatever reason, benefit from smaller classes and a more structured core curriculum. I wouldn’t say that it’s better or worse than CAS, its just different.</p>

<p>honestly I’m worried that I might not like it.</p>

<p>I also received a letter getting accepted into the LSP of 2015. I’ve done some research here on CC as well as reading the program FAQs and brochure. I found an article on NYU’s blog which proved to be very interesting. It didn’t answer or quell all my worries, but it did explain some parts of the program. To me, it seems like NYU is trying to move away from LSP’s negative stigma, but most of the feedback that I have read online still seems negative. I haven’t officially requested my formal offer for admission yet because I still have doubts about the program.</p>

<p>Here’s a link to the article:
[The</a> Liberal Studies Program, Explained · NYU Local](<a href=“NYU Local”>The Liberal Studies Program, Explained | by NYU Local | NYU Local)</p>

<p>Got the same letter last year when I applied, and I accepted (NYU was my top choice no matter what). I was incredibly nervous about this, since the wording of the letter definitely sounds like they’re giving you a plan B admissions choice. </p>

<p>But it’s totally not. I love LSP, and I am incredibly glad that I was put in. The reality is that no matter where you get in at NYU, there are certain general education classes you’ll take, and LSP is no different. This being the case, I happen to think LSP’s classes are better, more interesting, and more engaging options. I have friends in CAS, Gallatin, and Tisch, and they all have so far hated their requirement classes. </p>

<p>I noticed a difference especially with my writing requirement class as opposed to those of other schools (where everyone would have to take Writing the Essay). My friends in WTE hated it. They complained the material they were learning was redundant, the lecture sizes were ridiculous, and that they weren’t becoming better writers. I, however, loved my writing class (and my professor; if you come to LSP take Nina D’Alessandro-- she is AMAZING). I looked forward to it, I learned a lot, I became a better writer. </p>

<p>I understand the anxiety that can come from getting that LSP letter. And I searched online for months trying to figure out what the hell it actually is. I think it’s a way for NYU to let more kids in without inundating CAS and such. But to me it doesn’t matter, because I have encountered so many great professors and learned a great deal here. And also because it makes it less complicated to register. Your curriculum is Cultural Foundations I and II, Social Foundations I and II, Writing I and II, plus one elective each semester. Keeps it simple, because you’ll never wonder what class fulfills a certain requirement and such. I think LSP is a better way to do your first year or two at NYU than going directly into any school, to be honest. It’s a really great program, and I couldn’t be happier.</p>

<p>Which is better for engineering and economics between NYU and BU? </p>

<p>I am from India.I got into both. The only catch is that NYU enrolled me in the Global Liberal Studies Programme under which I will have to spend two years in Shanghai and for the other two years I would be transferred to NYC and I will be able to join any one of NYU’s schools.On the other hand,there is no such thing at BU. I am really confused. I do not know whether I should go to BU or NYU. Since I am an international, I do not know whether I will be able to adjust in Shanghai. NYU was one of my top priorities but I do not want to live in Shanghai. What should i do? also,will I be able to transfer if I am in Shanghai?</p>

<p>I got the same letter a couple weeks ago. I think it is pretty terrible the way they tell you. Reading the first part about not getting into CAS I almost cried. Thankfully I read further right away and found out I got into LSP. But that still was kind of depressing because it made it sound like I got into the “remedial” program. The wording makes you feel stupid. </p>

<p>I did a lot of research trying to figure out why I was put in. NYU never wants to tell the students anything about it. They just keep saying that it is “highly selective” and “excellent” and that it isn’t not as good as CAS.</p>

<p>I went to my counselor to see if she knew anything about it. She called them and they told her that the major factor used to decide LSP students is where they live. </p>

<p>The rep said that LSP is mainly for rural kids. It is there in an attempt to reduce the dropout rate. The first two years of college have the highest dropout rate. Most of the students who drop out are (apparently) ones who grew up in rural communities.</p>

<p>LSP is supposed to put us in a small classroom setting so that the professors can be more like mentors that help us more the first two years. </p>

<p>So she said LSP is so we don’t get scared off by the big city and transfer to our rural colleges. In a way it seems to make sense. If you go to “Get to Know Liberal Studies Students” ([NYU</a> > A & S > Get to know our Students](<a href=“http://ls.nyu.edu/page/ourstudents]NYU”>http://ls.nyu.edu/page/ourstudents)) a lot of the people talk about coming from smaller cities/towns and NY being overwhelming, but LSP helping them.</p>

<p>Yeah, I know, colleges always only say good things about their programs, but I think LSP might not be so bad. I don’t think it is for the “stupid” students. It definitely helps get the core requirements out of the way. Though the lack of electives seems annoying.</p>

<p>Let’s see if what the LSP rep said matches up…</p>

<p>I’m from a farming town in rural New Mexico. I got a 31 on my ACT, 2020 on my SAT (1350 w/o writing), and am graduating with a 4.75 GPA (weighted) 4.0 GPA (unweighted).</p>

<p>What about you guys?</p>

<p>Is it possible to get all premed requirements and a math degree out of LSP in 4 years?</p>