<p>Hey, I was bored so I decided to start a thread for left leaning CC members....</p>
<p>why is no one posting? It has been 4 1/2 hrs.</p>
<p>I am a liberal. boooo conservatives!</p>
<p>You have any ideas who might the democrat presidential candidate for the next election? I think perhaps Hillary, hopefully not Kerry</p>
<p>Kerry is gonna run for sure, but i doubt he'll win the primaries.</p>
<p>i liked howard dean, why did he have to spazz out at that promotional speech.lol</p>
<p>w00t!! liberal pride!
yeah greendayfan, i was also disappointed by the fact that so many people turned on howard dean. i mean ok, he showed some emotion, but how does that make him a bad candidate?? it's pretty sad to think that one little screech can take you from being a frontrunner to virtually nothing. plus, i think we liberals <em>need</em> someone strong and outgoing-- we have this reputation of being "wimpy" and keep getting squashed. kerry was nice, but sort of a weed :/
but what REALLY ****es me off is when some of my republican friends yell at me for saying i dislike bush, and are like "you're so unpatriotic. if you don't like the administration, go to france."
wow that sounded a bit rude. im certainly not trying to offend anyone with that post, i just had to let out a little angst. GAH.</p>
<p><em>drops into liberal topic</em>
There's something about conservative politics which just makes me very uncomfortable. I really don't like to see government put the interests of big business over the interests of its citizens. Also I'm strongly pro-choice in a country where abortion is banned...</p>
<p>Who here likes Bush?</p>
<p>I'm not a true liberal. I consider myself a left-leaning moderate. I want Howard Dean too!</p>
<p>i didn't affiliate myself with any political party until bush became president, and i'll probably go back to independent once he leaves office :P there are plenty of republican senators, etc. who would make great presidents, but i do want howard dean!</p>
<p>I like Bush! Question -- why allow abortion? Its murder, and there is an alternative known as adoption, people...</p>
<p>What? you care about abortion when the REAL issues are Iraq and terrorism, and also domestic policies!</p>
<p>well...kerry was probably friends with Bin Laden, so Bush is okay in my book!</p>
<p>plus before the election, didnt bin laden or al qaeda or someone threaten to attack us again if bush were reelected? he must be doing something right</p>
<p>"well...kerry was probably friends with Bin Laden, so Bush is okay in my book!"</p>
<p><em>sigh</em> conservatives..... always fail to get facts straight!</p>
<p>was a joke...(although i wouldnt be surprised if it were true...)</p>
<p>ok tjlax, I respect your opinion on abortion. However,what if a woman is raped, why should she be forced to have the child. I think what a woman does with her body should be up to her, not Politicians. There are so many extenuatuing circumstances that it's ridiculous to completely outlaw abortion! And I agree with Primitive. I find it strange that conservatives are so preoccupied with issues like gay marriage and abortion when there are more important issues, like national security and the environment IMO.</p>
<p>tglax-
i personally feel that abortion is a tricky issue. only in really terrible/awful/desperate situations would i ever consider having one. however, i have remained prochoice for these reasons:
- i don't know if it's really <em>murder</em>. most abortions are performed before the baby has a distinct heartbeat/breathing (correct me if i'm wrong). while the baby has the potential to become a human being, i dont think it technically is one yet.
- to follow this, i just don't think the government has the right to determine whether/not a fetus is living, and then to tell a woman what to do. it allows them to cross so many ethical boundaries... plus, why don't they go focus on terrorism, poverty, etc.??? abortion is not <em>that</em> big of a deal in the whole scope of things.
- if the mother could suffer as a result of the birth, i don't think it's really fair to take the life of an unborn fetus over her's.
- it would be horrible not to let the victims of rape/incest get abortions. (however, i don't know if you're for/against this, so yeah...)</p>
<p>however, i do think it's disgusting when people use abortions as a method of birth control. i know of a girl who's been pregnant 5 times (she's 15!!), but each time, she just has an abortion. i find that truly horrible. </p>
<p>i wouldn't really mind if abortions were limited somewhat, but i definately don't think they should be completely banned. each case is so different that we can't set a standard for everyone.</p>
<p>i'd love to hear your ideas. political debates are fun! :D</p>
<p>how would you have acted differently on terrorism - also, rape victims represent 1% of all abortion applicants (im talking bigger picture here)</p>
<p>And why is everyone still arguing over the Iraq war? It was started...why stop it now? Liberals are all about retreating -- Clinton comes into office, what does he do? pulls troops out of Somalia -- as soon as he does this Bin Laden proclaims victory and is looked on as "the man who made the Great Satan run" -- if you think about it Clinton got the steam rolling, he gave bin laden the support to launch a full scale attack (WTC 9/11)</p>
<p>ok:
1. Bin Laden attacks us
2. We go fight Saddam Hussein
Note here that Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein HATE each other.</p>
<p>I'm sorry, but I just don't see the logic..</p>