Libertarianism Doesn’t Work

<p>Why do people think it will?</p>

<p>For the same reason that people think communism will work -- it looks great on paper.</p>

<p>yes it will!</p>

<p>why won't it work? why can't social and economic freedoms coexist? awesome job making empty claims</p>

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Why do people think it will?

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Perhaps if you brought up a specific point it would be better to refute this statement.</p>

<p>It is not feasible in a society like America. It will lead to a number of disastrous things like crime and inequality.</p>

<p>It's the same with communism too: these things only work in relatively small societies, like African tribes. There aren't too many small groups left, which is a requirement. </p>

<p>In a large country like the U.S. Libertarianism, like Communism, is an ideal, but is unrealistic in our society.</p>

<p>"It is not feasible in a society like America. It will lead to a number of disastrous things like crime and inequality."</p>

<p>How so?</p>

<p>at least make a point or something, good god.</p>

<p>"good god"- you're lame</p>

<p>What happend with enron would be completely legal.</p>

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"good god"- you're lame

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haha</p>

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It's the same with communism too: these things only work in relatively small societies, like African tribes. There aren't too many small groups left, which is a requirement. </p>

<p>In a large country like the U.S. Libertarianism, like Communism, is an ideal, but is unrealistic in our society

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<p>agree, no way it would ever work in an industrialized society.</p>

<p>No, actually what happened with Enron would never be accepted in a true Libertarian society as it stresses a separation of state and economics. The reason Libertarianism is so disliked by people is because the people who most often promote it are just hardline conservatives without the religiosity. People don't realize that Libertarians society requires a complete overhaul of how we view society, not just tax cuts and privatizing everything short of the police and military forces. </p>

<p>That being said, Libertarianism is built on the foundation of free market capitalism which does not exist in the world and itself is unfeasible. Why?</p>

<p>Some of the things Free Market Capitalism requires:</p>

<p>Large buyer or seller may dominate the market: De Beers clearly proves this characteristics does not hold and investment gurus like George Soros and Warren Buffet have HUGE sway on the stock market when they make moves.</p>

<p>Perfect Information: In order for rational actors (the key component to a libertarian society to exist) to make their decisions, they must have all knowledge required to make those decisions, past, present and future expectations. If this were to exist, speculation, the entire foundation that the stock market is built on, would be history.</p>

<p>THERE SHOULD NOT PRICE ON EXCHANGES: In short, retailers should not exist the free market. You should sell directly what you produce.</p>

<p>So essentially, Libertarianism is a political ideology rooted in ideals and not the real world. That's why it will probably be confined to the ivory towers of academia and the rich upper middle class white suburbs for long time.</p>

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It is not feasible in a society like America. It will lead to a number of disastrous things like crime and inequality.

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<p>Like we don't have any of that today, right?</p>

<p>I find the emphasis on 'true libertarianism' to be kind of a narrow interpretation. Obviously no Libertarian party can hope to implement a pure libertarian economy - our current system is simply too entrenched. What Libertarianism offers, I think, is the realization that neither major 'party' offers the stranglehold on the truth they claim to. Libertarianism and Libertarians should stress the social freedom aspect much more than the economic facets.</p>

<p>I see Libertarianism as an amazing alternative toward pointless social legislation. I see it as a way toward focusing our government on governing what matters, not what doesn't. (Nothing you do with your body, short of making it explode nearby other people, should be the government's business). Likewise, the government can't be responsible for helping everyone. We can't legislate poverty out of existence or provide the social programs that ensures that everyone gets to live the life they dream of. </p>

<p>It's only an ideal when you take it to extremes - just like anything else.</p>

<p>I totally agree with you Sinnic.</p>

<p>What we seriously need is social libertarianism, the economic aspects would be a plus, but neigh impossible to implement without a major worldwide catastrophe. The government can truly govern the government in limited form, making the state stronger and its citizens happier by actually doing things that positively affect society. We would be free do anything to ourselfs except harming others, nothing but true civil liberty.</p>

<p>I actually see what you’re saying and agree with much of it, but it is undoubted that equality would take a huge hit from libertarianism and for just that reason, we should reject the idea completely. Libertarianism is just selfish
If you take the Ayn Rand view of selfishness being a good thing, you are crazy.</p>

<p>Why shouldn't you be allowed to be selfish? Why should the gov't FORCE altruism (which is only breeding apathy and dependency)</p>

<p>wayupsts,</p>

<p>Who says that every libertarian is a Randian?</p>

<p>No one is entitled to YOUR paycheck to cover up for their mistakes.</p>

<p>Rand was not even a libertarian</p>

<p>I never said every libertarian was a Rand fan</p>

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No one is entitled to YOUR paycheck to cover up for their mistakes.

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99% of why there is inequality is not because of peoples mistakes.</p>