<p>Hey, and believe it or not-we were treated fairly. LOL.(I was worried.)</p>
<p>Anyone else recognize th student from Kansas going to Duke!!!!!!</p>
<p>No. Is it really? LOL.</p>
<p>I am wondering if the Christian Science Monitor tried to locate those parent posters for their article after reading their stories here or vice versa. Interesting. </p>
<p>Who knows, whatever ya write here might be news in tomorrow's papers! :D</p>
<p>the CSM reporter actually posted on cc looking for meat....</p>
<p>there was an article in The Atlantic Monthly last year that featured a story about a kid from CC. In that case it was anonymous, however, I recognized the person as someone from my town.</p>
<p>bluebayou, really? I didn't see that. I think it's kinda cool.</p>
<p>Kansas? Duke? GG who didn't really care? It has to be. Absolutely no doubt!! I never saw the request for stories, but it's pretty obvious who did! And I really wish she would come back.</p>
<p>The person 's d was featured in last year's Atlantic Monthly was contacted by a reporter who read her posts here on CC. I didn't even know what CC was at the time and most likely wouldn't have known who the anonymous girl was who was featured in the article except that she happened to be a good friend of my older s and I easily recognized the details. </p>
<p>The same has taken place this year with Berurah. Berurah did NOT respond to someone looking for "meat." A reporter contacted her.</p>
<p>wait, don't misunderstand. The mother gave permission to have the d used in the magazine article. Same in both cases.</p>
<p>But, the mothers did not seek out the reporters by seeing some post that was looking for 'meat' as someone may have implied.</p>
<p>The "meat" thing was an unfortunate choice of words (not mine). But I'm not sure there's a huge amount of difference in responding to a post or responding to a reporter's inquiry based on a post. Either way, B chose to "go public", I'm sure with the blessing of her S -- I understand and respect her decision to do so. Not sure I would have done the same thing, and I'm REAL sure my S would have threatened me with a slow death if I had suggested it to him.</p>
<p>As a good friend of a GC, I'm appalled at the lack of journalistic integrity of this article. It is one thing to quote a message board post with no names attached, and quite another to name the school and location without offering the counselor an opportunity to respond or explain. I'm assuming that there would have been a disclaimer included that they had been denied a response if they had requested one, as they did quote another school in the same article claiming a "misunderstanding".
I know for a fact that there are angry parents who would take the opportunity to degrade our GC's attempts to guide their children to the right choices for in-state safeties and matches along with the reaches. It's entirely possible that this mother made this disparaging statement and it was a complete misconception on her part that the GC was trying to limit her son's opportunities. For her sake, I hope that either the school is not made aware of this article, or that this is either the Kansas woman's oldest or only child. Shame on you, CSM.</p>
<p>The restriction the school placed of only allowing the top 5 students to apply to Ivy's is ridiculous, and I support 100% the right to apply anywhere you want.</p>
<p>She ended up applying to Yale and Harvard, and based on the results (H EA defer, then deny, Yale waitlist) the article says "It would seem that the Ivy League had been a realistic goal for her." but I'm not so sure that's the right conclusion. </p>
<p>Waitlists are a murky area, and colleges often use them to soften the blow of a rejection or to send a message to a feeder HS. Its possible the adcom for her region was aware of what happened and put her on the waitlist so the school couldn't say "look, we were right". The EA deferral is common at Harvard; while Stanford will reject EA kids, Harvard seems less likely to do so.</p>
<p>Mikemac, I was thinking the same thing about the Harvard app - the outcome pretty much proves the g.c. right. Except that I am outraged at the statement that the GC would not "allow" her to apply to college (and curious as to what the "misunderstanding" was). I don't think it's appropriate for schools to put limits on where a kid is allowed to apply; kids should be able to apply wherever they choose. But I am actually a little skeptical about whether that was actually the case. Is it more likely that the GC simply told the kid that she could not expect a strong recommendation from the GC? After all, the recommendation forms to ask the GC to evaluate the kid in context with others in the class -- so a GC who feels that the particular kid is not a top performer would not be able to give the sort of reference needed to get into an Ivy.</p>
<p>One one hand you should be "allowed" to apply anywhere you want because at the end of the day it is your money being spent on the application fee. As a person who is very familar with Boys and Girls H.S. can tell you first hand if there were not any press involved in this situation the student would have most likely been straight out rejected . I think her story recieving national press actually worked in her favor with getting admitted in to UMich.</p>
<p>I beleive that Harvard and Yale did not want to be pulled in to the fray because this was and african american student from a low performing school smack in the middle of Bedford Stuyvestant. The backlassh of a straight out rejection from either of these schools would have essentially been a PR nightmare and caused a feeding frenzy as the schools would have been accused of not walking their talk especially when they are trying to recruit more minority students from low income areas which represent the majority of the students at Boys and Girls. </p>
<p>If Stuyvesant (where the sister attended) has the reputation of being one of the best high schools in the city, and known for its academic rigor at B&H is totally at the other end of the spectrum. The average SAT score for stuyvesant is 679 v/721 m where the average SAT for B&G is 415v/ 412 m. </p>
<p>While the GC should not have "stopped" the student from applying, but in any ohter school, a GC would have also discouraged someone with an 86 average (B student) from applying to the Ivies without any major hooks.</p>
<p>Boys and Girls in the past have sent students to the Ivies, but none to Harvard. I know that last year one student was admitted to Dartmouth and is now an 08 (but I beleive she was the only one admitted to an Ivy). There are a few that have been admitted to the NYS colleges at Cornell and to Columbia through HEOP. So how really do you strike a balance when you are suppose to be giving your professional judgement and a student doen't want to hear it. Maybe the best thing to do is to let everyone apply any and every where they want and let the chips fall where they may. But this ends up hurting the next class as the counselor begins to lose credibility.</p>
<p>i was quoted in the new york times as a result of a post i made on cc regarding the new sat. i got an actual phone interview, though, and the reporter (barbara whitaker) was very professional. (mildly off-topic, sorry.)</p>