Low income NY girl seeking small teacher’s college/liberal arts college

Hi, everyone! I’m a community college student who is beginning to explore making a list of colleges to apply to this fall. I would love some feedback from you guys as I get into this!

My basic info:
New York state resident. 20 years old, female. 3.4 GPA/1360 SAT. First gen. Sketch of ECs: I work full-time on organic farms through WWOOF (Willing Workers on Organic Farms). I write poetry. Involved with Catholic Worker (left-leaning Catholic charity movement) volunteerism, attend church. Have traveled to 28 states in the last 2 years and lived out of a backpack during most of that time. I’m no longer doing the “living out of a backpack” thing. It was not voluntary. I made the best of it. I am still working on an organic farm. Have been taking community college classes online while doing all of this. Financially independent on the FAFSA — I was in foster care and do not have biological or adoptive family.

Cost constraints:
I have no expected family contribution. My work situation is a “boarder” (I am not paid for my work, just given somewhere to sleep and meals.) This is what I found myself doing to avoid being street-homeless (instead of just technically homeless) after aging out of foster care. My income is actually zero. I have no assets. EFC=0. I would strongly prefer to only take out federal student loans, and not private loans. I have a co-signer but it seems unwise financially. My long term romantic partner is willing to pay for transportation costs, application fees, and incidentals. If I attend a college in the NYC area, (>15 miles from Manhattan), we have discussed it and I am able to live with him, rather than living in a dorm with a meal plan.

Intended majors & professional goals:
I want to be a teacher. I’m strongly interested in Montessori and Catholic schools. I love poetry and literature. I have taken three years of high school French and spent early childhood before entering the foster care system in a bilingual French-English home. I am interested in education, English, and French majors. I’d like to teach in a Montessori or Catholic school after college. I think Teach for America and teaching in underserved areas sounds amazing. I’m also interested in teaching English as a foreign language (TEFL) overseas. I have some interest in pre-law but I’m not sure about that one. Oh, also. This is kind of a weird one, but I’ve always kind of wanted to be a nun. I’m a practicing Catholic and I love that many orders of nuns are so involved in humanitarian work and caring for others, and that it is a lifestyle in which you can have spiritual community, meaningful professional work, and live your faith. I only expect to explore the idea of becoming a religious sister after I’ve finished college and paid down any student debt I may have, though. I have talked extensively to a Loretto sister, a Sister of St. Joseph, and a Canossian Sister of Charity about vocational discernment and all three women advised me to go to college and then pursue it with a degree.

Non-academic preferences:
I’d most like to go to school in the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic. After that, the Midwest or South. But for the right school, I’d be fine with going west. I would prefer a smaller school. I think I’d do better in a school with small classes sizes. No preference about weather. Honestly, I’m also fine with anything from an isolated rural campus to a school in the heart of a metropolis. I’ve lived in both kinds of places and do fine in either.

My GPA is unweighted. I’ve just taken the liberal arts/gen ed classes required for a generic A.A. degree. My SAT score is 1360. I actually am studying to take the ACT in September, though, because I think I will do better on it— I score fine on reading/writing/science questions, but am very weak on math— especially the kind of math in the SAT; better on geometry. I’m focusing on studying ACT math and will see what happens in September! :slight_smile:

My list of prospective schools I’m looking at to apply to this fall mostly consists of SUNY and CUNY schools. I would really, really, really appreciate any kind of ideas about schools I should apply to in addition to state schools— or even ideas about what state schools might be good fits. (There are just so many in New York!!) I’m really attracted to Catholic colleges, smaller liberal arts colleges, and women’s colleges. So far, though, the only school I know for sure that I am definitely applying to is CUNY—Hunter College… the rest is in flux. Thanks in advance guys!

Look into the fact that foster kids are treated as independent in FAFSA for financial aid.
if you are planning to teach in NY, then the SUNYs CUNYs are going to a great idea and they will take your CC credits.

Look into the small private Catholic colleges. There are tons! I went to St. Bonaventure and it’s a good one for an education major. It’s small and very friendly. I would strongly recommend it! I think you would have a shot at large grants and scholarships.
Others in NY: St. John Fisher, Niagara, Canisius, Nazareth, Le Moyne

I can see any of them deeply appreciated what you would have to contribute to their campuses and they seem like they would be a great fit for you.

The women’s colleges that might work for you–

Mt. Holyoke
Agnes Scot
Hollins in Virginia.
Alverno
Brescia – looks like it might be even cheaper – https://www.brescia.edu/
Cedar Crest
College of Saint Benedict
Cottey College – http://www.cottey.edu/
Mary Baldwin – https://marybaldwin.edu/
Notre Dame of MD – https://www.ndm.edu/
Salem College – https://www.salem.edu/
St. Catherine (St. Kate) – https://www.stkate.edu/
Sweet Briar – https://sbc.edu/
Trinity Washington in DC – https://discover.trinitydc.edu/
Wesleyan College in Georgia – very cheap comparatively – https://www.wesleyancollege.edu/

To find you your probably cost on average for each school use the website called College Navigator. Find a school. Click on the “net price” tab.

It’s unclear what sort of aid they can or will give you until you receive your acceptance and view their FA offer.

Best of luck to you.

Since you are low income and live in NY, you might want to focus on SUNY or CUNY. If you get Pell, Tap, independent student loan of $12,500, then it might be affordable.

https://www.hesc.ny.gov/repay-your-loans/repayment-options-assistance/loan-forgiveness-cancellation-and-discharge/nys-teacher-loan-forgiveness-program.html

@bopper and @mommdc — thanks for the helpful info on financial aid! and @Dustyfeathers and @mom2collegekids - thanks for the interesting school suggestions - I will run the NPC on those! :slight_smile:

Berea College in Kentucky pays for tuition, room and board for all students in exchange for work on campus. Grateful alumni also donate to the school to keep it going. I think there is a strong service ethic in the school that you might like.

@seashell98 I responded to your other thread but now that I see more info from you, I have other suggestions. First, I second Berea. There are lists of colleges that award full scholarships plus stipends - one that may be really appealing to you is Notre Dame’s Stamps Scholarship - full tuition plus fees and a $3000 scholarships. Also focus on wealthy institutions with large endowments and generous alumni to fund special scholarships. With your excellent grades and wonderful writing style, along with your life experience, you should be able to find a place that pays you to attend! The smaller schools typically do not have the funds to do so. FWIW, I was a first gen college student from a low income background - a Pell grantee, and I really needed the social capital that went along with a top flight education from a distinguished private university. If you do pursue convent life, this may be moot, but I worry about you going to a state school or very small institution without the means to help you for the full four years, and possibly beyond. Good luck!

@seashell98, you might look at SUNY Geneseo, too. Lots of good advice here. Wishing you the best!

Given your background, I don’t thing SUNY or CUNY would top what you’d get at strong private colleges. You have a very compelling story. You’ve shown remarkable resilience. Colleges are really looking for students like you because resilience, which is paired with all kinds of positive outcomes, is in short supply these days.

Take a look at Bates? Satisfy ur criteria, sounds like a solid match/low reach

Look at Hamilton College in NY. This is a small meet full needs college.

Have you spoken to members of your church leadeship and asked for help and advice about finding an affordable Catholic university?

I wish you all the best.

I’m not sure a 3.4 GPA is going to get this applicant into Hamilton as a transfer.

Salve Regina in Newport, Rhode Island. Beautiful school with a Catholic heritage but started by an order of nuns vs the jesuits Augustinians or Dominicans. I believe the president of the school or board is still a sister. Just a slightly different approach. It is now fully coed and has college sports etc.

It’s such a beautiful place and nice students.

I don’t have much advice, but I just want to say that any school would be lucky to have you. You of course know that you can not enter a religious order with student debt, correct? So try to target some schools that promise to provide full need. Those tend to be very selective, though, so you’ll have to really bring it in your essays, etc.

Have you looked at College of St. Rose and Siena college in the Albany area?

I think a lot of SUNY schools would work for you. https://www.suny.edu/attend/find-a-suny-campus/campus-search/
Also Siena near Albany is a small Catholic school with education so it could be a possibility…

Thanks for the insights & feedback, everyone!! :slight_smile:

If youre looking for a very Catholic college check out the Newman List: https://newmansociety.org/the-newman-guide/recommended-colleges/

My son is attending DeSales in the fall and it is very orthodox.

One more for Berea. It’s a great school and a affordable option.

Assuming you are at a community college in New York State go to your counseling service and ask which SUNY schools have education major as well as direct transfer from your CC to 4 year SUNY. This process will be seamless. in NYS you will qualify for the “Excelsior Scholarship” making college free for you. Because of your situation you will most likely give you your housing/meal plan as well. Good luck!