<p>Hello,</p>
<p>MY SAT is arriving and I am bit worried since I think I wont be reaching what I expected a 2100+</p>
<p>I will probably fall between a 1700 to a 2100..</p>
<p>What are my chances for getting into Harvard if I have VERY GOOD hooks, top 5% IB Student.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Face it, most people's chances of getting into Harvard are 10:1. Unless your hooks are something like being an Olympic athlete or being the next Yoyo Ma, then they aren't going to compensate for relatively low scores for Harvard apps. Sure, you have a chance. The overwhelming majority of apps to H could do well there if they were admitted. Just keep in mind that you're a longshot, something that's true for most students who apply.</p>
<p>Apply to Harvard if that's your dream. Also select safety and match schools that you'd love to attend.</p>
<p>just apply, see what happens</p>
<p>yeah I think that is what I am going to do.. I think I have a good chance since my hook is very unique</p>
<p>I am not an olympic athlete but what I do and the extent I achieved is so rare that is almost olympic</p>
<p>What do you do?</p>
<p>what DO you do?</p>
<p>Its funny how you ask for stats eval and not provide us with all the info. What might seem as the "olympic" sized hook may not seem so great to the rest of us or harvard.</p>
<p>yea what is your hook? How can people give you advice if they don't know what it is. If you are a 13 year old native american who had his parents killed in a hate crime and went on to found your own $1,000,000 business we could tell you that you are a shoe-in, if you won some contest for pumpkin growing we could tell you that your chances aren't real good.</p>
<p>Yep, I agree. Even winning national competitions for Math or Science isn't much of a "hook" nowadays. That's normal for most HYP applicants!</p>
<p>is ur hook: "being top 5% IB Student"???</p>
<p>That really isn't much of a hook. Being the top 5% of all IB DIPLOMA students in your school, even if it's a big public school, with 90 IB Diploma Students isn't much of a hook out of 200+ seniors... It's expected of HYP applicants, I rather think.</p>
<p>IB_Victim, thanks for that. I skipped over that part.</p>
<p>GoCollege: I am also an IB diploma candidate in the top 5% of my class. Actually, I am in my 7th year of IB and hopefully like the other things I do - it shows long term commitment. By the way, I am definitely in the minority of kids who have done IB for the full 7 years. Most kids drop out at some point OR begin IB their junior year (just to get the diploma). I do not, of course, consider it a hook by any means to make up for my SAT scores that are in the range you posted. </p>
<p>I don't know if I have any "hook" that is really going to stand out. But, I believe my college application will be a unique combination of things that will hopefully stand out a bit.</p>
<p>Go College:</p>
<p>NorthStarMom has a really good attitude and I say go for it too! I too am applying to one Ivy League but NOT because it is Ivy League; but because it is the school I like best and serves my needs the most. I really hate it when people post "what are my chances at Ivy League schools" because it shows that they just want to go to an Ivy League school, nothing more. I think it makes them look shallow. </p>
<p>And like you, my SATs are not going to be in their 75% range; but they WILL be in their range of acceptance (I researched it). They say they don't have a cut-off and maybe they don't but I do know that they did not accept any applicants last year with an SAT lower than "x". So, while I am definitely not a perfect candidate (no one is with the Ivies); I am also not a flat out reject either. Long shot, yes? Impossible, no!</p>
<p>If you'd actually researched it properly, you'd realise that the people with the low SATs in their "range of acceptance" are heavily recruited - albeit for sports, music, minority recruiment, or something else entirely. These people have strong hooks, and so far you don't seem to have anything other than your top 5% IB.</p>
<p>Not that I'm putting you off - I got 1390 on the (old) SAT, and got accepted at Harvard (and I obviously had some hooks). But I also got rejected by ivies, and lesser schools.</p>
<p>nick04: Graduating in top 5% of IB is not a hook. I do have some interesting characteristics about myself that will set me apart from other applicants though.</p>
<p>You say you got into Harvard with a 1390 because you had some hooks? So, what were your hooks?</p>
<p>Um, I think Nick04 was being sarcastic lol.</p>
<p>Nicko4: Again, I totally I agree with you that being in the top 5% of IB is not a hook on its own. However, combined with other accomplishments; it may make for an interesting candidate. Instead of having a laundry list of achievements/clubs/cs/ec; what I have is a laundry list of activities and leadership roles WITHIN each EC. Also, my ECs are in totally different areas and I have been involved in them anywhere between 4 and 7 years. What my application will show is comittment and depth within each EC. In addition to my work ethic and character. My essays will be great because of the unique experiences I have had. Yes, my SAT scores will hinder me and may even prevent me from getting accepted into my 1st choice. I am, however, taking my SATs again - to increase my chances. My 'package' is a lot different than most applicants; as most Ivy applicants look like cookie-cutters. </p>
<p>In addition to the above, my application will show that I am a risk taker and am very mature. Trust me, the demands and challenges of going to the most demanding college will be nothing compared to what I have endured (by choice too!). </p>
<p>Being a FULL IB student is a little unique; only because I have been one for 7 years. I could have taken the easier road and enrolled in only the IB diploma program. But no, I decided 7 years ago that I would stick with it until the end. Everything I do, is with passion and dedication.</p>
<p>So there you have it: With the exception of my lackluster SATs; I believe I have a very attractive application package.</p>
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<p>Isn't that actually a bad thing?</p>
<p>Bananas: You are kidding, right?</p>
<p>Has anyone heard or read anything about the majority of IB students scoring lower on SATs than AP students? My g.c. says that IB students on average score lower on the SATs (although there are exceptions) because IB is international and in IB you are taught to think a different way. AP is more American and the same company writes both the AP and the SAT tests. Is there any research to prove this theory? </p>
<p>I would like to hear from full IB students (those that have done the program for 4 years) on this one, please!</p>