<p>Hey, I'm not sure about this but are international students expected to have lower SAT scores? I mean I know some international kids do amazing at SATs, but for some reason, even the smartest chick at my school didn't get higher than 2040.</p>
<p>And I'm at 2000 (630 CR, 710 M, 660W) - I know that isn't amazing, but in my school I'd say I was in the top 5-10% - I find it weird I can apply to the top British universities with confidence, but with American universities I can't even think about Ivy League.</p>
<p>*I find it weird I can apply to the top British universities with confidence, but with American universities I can’t even think about Ivy League. *</p>
<p>Maybe it’s because the US has many times the population as England.</p>
<p>A few schools in the US don’t require SATs for int’ls. However, what is your financial situation? If you can full pay, you’ll have more choices. If you’ll need a lot of aid, then you’ll need to get accepted to the few tops schools that can meet need for int’ls (but not all are need-blind for internationals).</p>
<p>madcoar… the Ivy league unis are goo … no doubt about that… but look beyong the Ivy league… I, for example, had 2090 on the SATs and 2150 super scored and I was admitted to Emory, which, although not in the Ivy League, is a very good university. Plus, I am an international who did not need aid either. If everything else on your application is good and since you do not need aid, with a 2000 SAT, you may have a solid shot at some top unis.</p>
<p>but look beyong the Ivy league… I, for example, had 2090 on the SATs and 2150 super scored and I was admitted to Emory, which, although not in the Ivy League, is a very good university.</p>
<p>I agree that you need to look beyond the ivies. Even if you were somehow accepted, why would you want to put yourself in a situation where you’d be competing with a bunch of kids whose stats far exceeded yours? I would think you’d have a more pleasant college experience at a school where your stats are in the upper 50% of its students, so that you can excell and end up with a strong GPA. </p>
<p>There are many great schools where you’ll find the academics challenging. What is it about the ivies that you like - besides their names?</p>
<p>I was told in my Harvard interview that if I walked up to Harvard with a bunch of 650s, it wouldn’t be out of the question. I ended up getting a 2130, but you get the picture.</p>
<p>So don’t worry! Apply to the Ivies if you want, but I would agree you should put a couple other schools on the list if you’re DETERMINED to come to the US rather than stay where you are. I’m applying to UVA, Brandeis, Columbia and Harvard, as well as Exeter, Birmingham and Kent in the UK (I’m doing drama, I can hardly be Oxbridge!)</p>
<p>*I was told in my Harvard interview that if I walked up to Harvard with a bunch of 650s, it wouldn’t be out of the question. *</p>
<p>While it may not be “out of the question” if a student is a URM or has an incredible hook, it is unlikely for a student to get accepted to Harvard with a bunch of 650s (SAT 1300/1950), since Harvards mid 50 range starts at 1400. Those who have below that 1400 are either athletes, URMs, super donors’ kids, or have a NYT bestseller (or similar hook).</p>
<p>It’s because we’re international. I kid you not. We can get away with lower scores, honestly. Sorry. The guy who interviewed me, class of 09, said he got like a 660 on 2 of his SAT IIs.</p>
<p>Yeah I’m definitely looking beyond Ivies, I agree that being at a college where more than half the kids were smarter than me would be pretty depressing. Ahh that’s pretty interesting/ relieving dreaming92. </p>
<p>I’m applying to NYU, UChicago, UVA and Georgetown in the states. I just really don’t want rejection letters from all of them, looking around on collegeconfidential I swear more than half the people applying to those colleges have better stats than I do. But then again I can’t really compare coming from a British School.</p>
<p>Ooh I’ve applied to Exeter too. and Bristol, LSE, Warwick and Nottingham.</p>
<p>madcoar, is English your first language, or not? Do you need to take TOEFL? I would think this would make a difference in how American schools interpret your CR and W scores.</p>
<p>I do not know how the TOEFL is calibrated or how predictive an Internet test is of the real thing (if you are talking about a practice test). But the fact that English is not your native language certainly makes your CR & W scores look more impressive.</p>
<p>*It’s because we’re international. I kid you not. We can get away with lower scores, honestly. Sorry. The guy who interviewed me, class of 09, said he got like a 660 on 2 of his SAT IIs. *</p>
<p>Ahhh…SAT IIs are a whole different issue. SAT II scores do not get included when rankings are being considered. Therefore, it’s no big deal for any school if SAT IIs are in the 600’s. Schools want SAT I scores to be high for incoming freshmen because that is what they must report.</p>
<p>And, a student who graduated in '09 was accepted 5 years ago, so admissions are more difficult now.</p>
