<p>I have just under a 2100. should i even bother applying?</p>
<p>Their average SAT score is a 2235. That being said, 4.3% of all applicants last year with an SAT of 1900-2090 were accepted, whereas 21.6% of all applicants with a 2300-2400 were accepted. It wouldn’t be surprising if nearly all of the applicants with a 1900-2090 that were accepted were either 1) legacies 2) underrepresented minorities with compelling cases 3) athletes. Unless you have compelling achievements or reasons for your below average test scores, to put it lightly, you have to understand that you’re already in a low standing from the get go. (They look at your SATs, your grades in the context of your classes, and SAT IIs before anything else. So think how these factors will impact your application if they were the first impression the reader would get of you as an applicant)</p>
<p>i have just under 2100 too! i ended up applying with the mentality “well if i dont try i will never know.” I say apply. What’s the worst that can happen? You go down like $70 dollars and lose a few hours of your time.</p>
<p>I’m applying with a 27 on the ACT. But I am also a URM, and I managed to get a 760 and an 800 on my SATII’S. </p>
<p>Just don’t worry about your scores. If you truly feel that you deserve to attend this university and that it is the right place for you, then you should take the gamble and apply regardless of scores.</p>
<p>Lol… 27… Lol… try getting into princeton with roughly an ~1800 equivalent on the SAT.</p>
<p>^That might not be the wisest idea, unless you have amazingness in everything else.</p>
<p>Scores arn’t everything…check out the 2015 Harvard results thread. I mean don’t get me wrong, they matter but some people just arn’t good at testing. That doesn’t mean they arn’t as smart as a person with 36 ACTS, it just means they arn’t great testers. I am pretty sure that colleges like Princeton should know this by now.</p>
<p>they do… but an ACT 27 is still an extreme outlier – even for a URM or some other semi-hooked applicant.</p>
<p>^It’s not extreme. I’m sure many people get in with 30s. That’s only a 3-point difference. Yes, it is pretty low, and one should have substantial other factors to have a good chance of acceptance.</p>
<p>“It’s not extreme”? Hunh?</p>
<p>For the Yale class of 2014, the 10th percentile had a ACT composite of 29. The 50th percentile had a 33. A twenty-seven barely registers I imagine. Nor can I imagine the stats of Yale and Princeton entering freshmen classes are significantly different.</p>
<p>If this isn’t an example of “extreme” HarvardBoundNY, can you show me what is?</p>
<p>24 would be the extreme, I imagine.</p>
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<p>A Princeton brochure says that the acceptance rate for SATs of 1500-1690 is 0.2%. So yes, if you are otherwise a strong applicant, certainly apply (if you would go to Princeton).</p>
<p>I have heard of several people who entered yale with a 29. Not a bad score but it’s very rare to hear of it. I see all these compelling kids with high 30’s and high sat scores on cc… It makes me think if I even have a chance because not everyone can score that high (hope I do lol).</p>
<p>Let’s do some extrapolation on Yale admit numbers. As I said, the 10th percentile of matriculants is 29ACT. There are stats for SAT too but they aren’t composites. For sake of argument, let’s assume that the entire lowest 10th percentile got 29 or less ACT. There were 1351 matriculants from 2109 admitees for a 62.5% yield. If we do a straight extrapolation, then we can assume 135 matriculated and a proportional 210 accepted students achieved 29 or less. There were 27,283 applicants in total.</p>
<p>210 divided by 27283 is 0.77% of the applicant pool. HarvardboundNY: would you consider a 0.77% chance of admission for 29ACT scorers to be an outlier or not?</p>
<p>Admittedly, for these 210 people, they got the golden ticket. But is this what people should be banking on?</p>
<p>To the OP: a 2100SAT would be about the 15th percentile for Yale (and I suspect Princton too). Not great but not a statistical impossibility.</p>
<p>^This logic is totally flawed. With it you would be saying that those with a 36 on the ACT have like a .1% chance of getting in.</p>
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<p>Yes, 2170 doesn’t preclude you from admission.</p>
<p>Carlmarx: applicants like you do get in. A lot also get rejected. No real way to tell.</p>
<p>HarvardboundNY: I think I can see where I draw a poor linear construction in my post #14. To actually discover the rate of admission of the 29 or below scorers, I need to see the actual no. of applicants who submitted 29s. I don’t have that number, but regardless, I think it’s indisputable that there are relatively few 29s and extremely few 27s, if any, among the 2109 admittees to Yale’s current freshman class.</p>
<p>^I see what you meant, but I think like 2% of the admitted class was 27 or less.</p>
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<p>^ Talk about “golden ticket”. I really don’t know however. The stats breakdown I have only speaks of the 10th percentile.</p>
<p>It really isnt all about your SAT score. If you stand out alot and have a decent GPA and rigorous class schedule and awesome leadership positions and sports and ECs, you have a chance. If you are a legacy or a minority or both, you have an even better chance. Dont psych yourself out though just because you may thing that your score isnt “what princeton wants”. Just apply and see what happens.</p>