<p>My scores are right on the bottom level of all the averages! What are my chances?</p>
<p>1670 SAT(1100 old SAT)
510 math, 590 verbal, 570 writing
23 ACT composite
25 english, 20 math, 26 reading, 21 science, combined writing/english 24
3.3 GPA with some honors classes, but no AP
But I go to a college prep Jesuit High School</p>
<p>Lots of volunteer work: hospital volunteer work 75 hours, volunteer tennis coach 35 hours, volunteer with mini peace corps called Amigos de las Americas</p>
<p>varsity tennis all four years, captain this year</p>
<p>i think i wrote a really good essay, and should have good recommendations, too.</p>
<p>They claim to not count the sat so that is on your side. They also claim this year's admissions have an average gpa of 3.67. Given that they don't know how to calculate gpa if your school is on a 5.0 scale, its a crapshoot.</p>
<p>They are also SAT optional if you don't want to send them (although your scores aren't that low) I also know they give merit aid to SAT-optional students.</p>
<p>Hi
My daughter was rejected. SAT 1760. GPA 3.2, she did not even get deferred. I actually called to get some info on what criteria they use. If you are on a 5.0 scale, beware. They take your letter grade on your transcript and bring it down a full grade. They also only include math, english, history, science and languages. Math and science are heavily weighted. My daughter had 8 honor courses so the letter grades were lower than they would be if she were in level one courses. They gave that no consideration and reducted the letter grade. Her taking those honor courses hurt her with the practice Providence uses. They claim this year they had 3600 candidates and the admission gpa average was 3.67. </p>
<p>I discussed the fact that they misinterpreted my daughter's transcript and even had her guidance councillor call. She was disturbed because they really didnt care. At the end of the process her gpa on a 5.0 scale was 4.0. On a 4.0 it is a 3.2 but they gave her a 2.73. Not fair and totally disturbing. So if you do get rejected, call them and dispute it. I dont think a 3.2 is going to get my daughter accepted but she may have been at least deferred.</p>
<p>I also wonder how many candidates are being unfairly rejected because their school is on a 5.0 scale and Providenced doesnt bother reaching out to the high schools to understand what it all means.</p>
<p>I'm sorry to hear that...it doesn't seem fair. I suppose it they got a lot of applications, they might have felt they didn't have to take the time to fine-tune the calculations, but that isn't very understanding. I also think that with their new SAT policy, they received more applications this year.
I know that they like many colleges, have very different results with each student. I wouldn't be surprised to hear they accepted someone with lower stats....it's always such a crapshoot with admissions.
I hope your D has many other opportunities and others will look at her application with more consideration.</p>
<p>Thanks for understanding our predicament. This college was tied to another as her first choice. She would have applied early decision to the other had she known she would not get a fair shot with this one. She applied to a few others which she wont hear from until the end of January. The concern we now have is the Providence's admission officer said the practice he uses is the same as other schools. I actually reached out to her second choice and they were extremely professional and let me know she is more than a letter grade to them. I felt reassured that at least she would get a fair shot. I have calls into a couple of others but with the holiday break it may be too late by the time we receive the letters.</p>
<p>My daughter is an awesome young lady who no matter what college she is accepted to will end up being a success. She has a very outgoing generous personality and will be an asset to any college she goes to. Have a great day.</p>
<p>I was denied admission, too. Not even deferred. My college counselor basically told me i have a great shot when i applied. I was so disappointed. Providence was my first choice, now i have no idea where i'm going to go. I can't believe I wasn't deferred.</p>
<p>kcompe01: I would suggest your daughter calls, I bet the last thing admissions people want is to have a parent calling. The student should show the initiative, just a thought. I'm sure it doesn't hurt that you call, though.</p>
<p>Hi
I did follow up because I felt it was appropriate. I have had a number of conversations with the admission folk and they are very professional and provided me some additional insight into their selection process. The way my daughter's school calculates gpa is much different than this college. I understand their position and although it was disappointing I appreciate the time they took with me. My daughter could have made the call but her emotions would get into it, the information was too fresh and it was one of her first choices. She has received an acceptance from another school and awaits 4 more letters. Tennisfan, I wish you luck. I know how disappointing it is when you think you have a good shot at a school and you get a denial. I have shared the information with her guidance councillor and think she will make different recommendations for colleges going forward. PC was recommended by my daughter's councillor, we would never have even considered it for a business school. If you need additional information dont hesitate to reach out to them, they will take the time they need to help you understand their decision. Have a great day.</p>
<p>TENNISFAN, I assume you're waiting to hear from some other schools? Is Merrimack College on your list? It's a good match/safety for people looking at Providence, BC, Holy Cross, etc. Also, SATs are optional. I think the deadline for regular admission is Feb 1.</p>
<p>Meanwhile...KCOMPE, if your D is looking for a Catholic college with a strong business program, she should consider Merrimack as well.</p>
<p>cadbury are you a student there? does it seem too small? i looked on the website and its only about 2000 students? thats like my high school! Eek!</p>
<p>I've actually been teaching at Merrimack for several years. Yes, it's a little under 2000 FT day students. But that's about the same size as many top LACs (though admittedly about half the size of Providence). The campus is 200+ acres. And academically the college is set up like a small university, with a well respected business division and a 4-year engineering program.</p>
<p>BTW I recently asked the moderators to add Merrimack to the alphabetical listings on the main page here on CC.</p>
<p>I am a Catholic School principal in the Archdiocese of Boston, and I am also so very fortunate to have an incredibly talented teacher on my staff who graduated from Merrimack College. </p>
<p>Also, my cousin graduated from Merrimack as did her husband who went to the engineering program there. Without a doubt, my cousin's husband has one of the best collections of first edition American novels that I have ever seen, and on top of that, he is incredibly successful as an engineer. Talk about well balanced! </p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly with Cadbury that one can not beat the Augustinian philosopy or the beautiful location in North Andover, Massachusetts. Merrimack is a hidden gem.</p>