<p>I know Chibearsfan, what I am saying is that there is a limited number of "honors" classes. Obviously, Honors students can takre any class they want, PLUS, honors classes, so yes, they have access to more options. But the number of Honors classes is limited.</p>
<p>nefer, I'm in similar situation to your D. I didn't submit an essay, but got an acceptance to Honors like 3 weeks later...</p>
<p>I got laughable financial aid from Michigan which throws out the whole idea of them costing the same as a private in the end. I got 30% of my financial aid as an academic merit scholarship and 70% as MAXIMUM federal loans and work study.</p>
<p>Did your D apply to any other top state U's like UNC or UVA? I got into UNC and they're only 30k a year!</p>
<p>Good luck. The Mich Honors program seems really good, I just wish it wasn't so expensive of a school</p>
<p>i just got the letter for consideration to the honors program.. do many people actually get that?? Are you really THAT good as they say on it? Theres a few questions i would like to ask..... so.. if you are in the honors program, what exactly is the difference?? more advising, classes to choose from etc? but more requirements to satisfy (will they require a lot more work or anything?) </p>
<p>Do you actually graduate looking better on like paper or anything or just a total good experience sorta thing? </p>
<p>And is South Quad really good? Does honors students kind of get separated in any way from normal LSA students?? </p>
<p>and if i applied to Ross prefered admit (still waiting for decision), and if i do get accepted, how will it work??</p>
<p>lastly.. is it possible to get accepted without submiting an essay? cause i only received it toda and the letter is dated march 6th, so basically i will need to send the letter in a weeks time.. (international student, takes 2 weeks for their mail to arrive..)</p>
<p>sorry if my post looks messy.. hahaha. would appreciate if anyone can explain just more detaily what the deal is. I'm actualyl quite flattered by umich, took them two weeks to give me a decision (complete 2/13, accepted 2/28), and now this thing, but when i look at credentials of some other people on the thread who have been waiting for 4 months, i get confused haha.. hey. can't help it when i scored 1980 for my SAT)</p>
<p>How long does a honor's response usually take? If i've been waiting a month, are things looking bad?</p>
<p>Nerj: Just e-mail it.</p>
<p>Nerj, you can get answers to every one of those questions elsewhere on this forum, but I'll answer cuz I'm a nice guy. I forgot what honors said in the letter, but if you get in, then yes, you're probably THAT good. You get more advising, but all advising at umich sucks, just talk to kids (like me) who are very familiar with the course guide or become very familiar with the course guide yourself and you should be fine. Yes, you get more classes to choose from, although, as I posted earlier, everyone has access to honors classes, it's just harder for non-honors kids. Underclass honors will probably not show on your transcript, but they are a good lead into an honors concentration which will make you "graduate looking better". It is also a good experience in general to have. Yes, south quad is really good. There's a reason they chose it for honors housing. As far as getting "separated from 'normal' LSA students", I would say yes and no. We live with all other honors students, and our honors classes are with other honors students, however you can take classes in non-honors classes, and your extra-curricular involvement with be with "normal" students, but academically, you're pretty removed from non-honors people. I'm pretty sure if you get into Ross preferred admit, everything will be the same. You take honors for a year and then just get in. I got in without an essay, and many others did, but I don't know your situation.</p>
<p>heard from LSA honors today.
accepted =) 3/24</p>
<p>me too</p>
<p>Accepted michigan LSA honors 3/25</p>
<p>i also heard today.
accepted 3/25 =)</p>
<p>must have been a large mailing recently</p>
<p>can someone tell me the advantages of being in honors besides nice housing and the prestige?</p>
<p>i know to earn the honors "title", or w/e you want to call it, on my graduation diploma i need to join during my junior and senior yr and write a honors thesis. i do want to graduate w/ honors, but i don't think i want the added on stress during my 1st two years. i also, if i don't get into Ross PA, will be applying to ROss in the winter... is there even honors for that? wouldn't it be a waste if i did get into Ross?</p>
<p>and if anybody knows, if i request to room w/ someone who is joining honors and i am declining honors... can i be her roommate or will they give preference to another honors student? </p>
<p>i'd appreciate any helpful responses. thanks!</p>
<p>I got in today too... even though I didn't apply or write an essay.</p>
<p>I got a letter a few weeks back telling me about it but I didn't respond or anything. </p>
<p>But, hey... I'm not complaining :)</p>
<p>bschool, the other advantages have been listed before. There is specialized advising, seminars, research opportunities, and the classes are generally smaller and more involved. If you don't get into Ross PA, applying from Honors will help you because it will show on your transcript that you took honors courses. If your friend is living in honors housing, and you decline honors, I don't think you'll be able to live with her. If she's in the honors program but living elsewhere, you should have no problem rooming with her.</p>
<p>heyy i got accept to the honors program too but i thought i'd have a better freshman experience living with the regular LSA students. is this not true? i'm not exactly the intellectual, study all the time, type. also do you guys think South Quad is better than living on the Hill? ahh i have absolutely no idea what im doing haha</p>
<p>For 999999999, honors kids here do <em>not</em> study all the time. To the contrary, there's a reputation for many of them to be party animals. Several honors classes are easier than the standard ones (i.e. Calculus II) and thus why many people consider honors a joke. If you want to take advantage of the perks (as mentioned earlier), it seems like it sure couldn't hurt.</p>
<p>In the liberal arts, I'm prepared to say that honors sections are more difficult than the regular sections. They are MUCH more rewarding though. Its a balance. Just be prepared if you take something like the honors version of polsci 160 or something like that; it'll hoe out your life.</p>
<p>kB</p>
<p>I agree with matthew that many honors students are "party animals". From the honors students that I know who don't live in south quad, most have regretted it because all of us meet in each other's rooms for our study/hw sessions, and if they want to join, they have to bus from north campus or make the walk from the hill, and there isn't as much of a community feel in those areas. I assure you that honors housing isn't what it sounds like. It's not a bunch of nerds studying around you all the time. I even signed up for a quad because i figured that if i asked for a quad, my roommates would have requested one too, so then they wouldn't be the nerdy loser types, but after coming here and realizing that maybe only 1/10 kids is like that, I realized how stupid my assumption about honors kids was. As for matthew's comment about honors sections being easier, he's wrong. I have comapred the MATH 116 (Calc II) and MATH 186 (honors calc II) tests side-by-side, and as far as difficulty goes, they're about the same, with 186 being slightly harder because of its added empahis on proof/theory. Maybe matthew just thinks 116 is harder because the grades are lower, but there are some obvious reasons for that.</p>
<p><em>obvious reasons</em></p>
<p>ouch...what are you trying to say about the regular kids there chibears? lol</p>
<p>Is the financial aid really little for OOS??</p>
<p>The financial aid at michigan as a whole isn't stellar. It's good for a public school, but doesn't give ivy-like packages. It's about what you'd expect for a school of Michigan's size, cost, and prestige. As far as what i imply about 116 students....ummm....let's just say that any class with 55 sections or so isn't going to be very selective in terms of student quality.</p>