<p>Is it possible to graduate with a degree in LSA and Ross in 4 years?</p>
<p>Yeah, I’ve heard it’s possible. If they didn’t have that forth year language proficiency test, I would so do that…</p>
<p>I plan on doing it if I decide to go to Mich. What language proficiency test?</p>
<p>It’s pretty self-explanatory really, it’s a test that makes sure you are proficient in a foreign language. Ross kids can get this requirement waived as long as they have fulfilled their distribution requirements in the humanities, social sciences, and mathematics/sciences.</p>
<p>To clarify, you need to test at a fourth SEMESTER proficiency to pass out of the LSA language requirement, that is four semesters (or two years) of college level language-- which isn’t necessarily that hard to do depending on your background. If you don’t test out it’s not as though they won’t let you into the majors, you just have to take whatever semesters you didn’t pass out of on the test because LSA requires 4th semester proficiency. It’s just a placement test.</p>
<p>How does that factor in to whether the LSA and Ross degree is feasible? Would it not be possible to graduate in 4 years if one didn’t test out?</p>
<p>It only affects you because you have to take the classes to get the LSA major. The reason why it bugs me a lot is because I’m quite frankly terrible at Spanish. I only finished till Spanish 3 at school, so that basically guarantees that I’ll probably have to take, at the very least, two semesters worth of Spanish (It has been two years since I’ve last taken a Spanish class, so I’ve forgotten quite a bit.). The worst part is that at this point I don’t even want to learn Spanish. I’d much rather learn Latin or French instead. But if take those classes in college that would mean I’d have to take 4 semesters of the language, something I’d rather not do. </p>
<p>I understand that knowing a foreign language is important but I’d rather learn it in an intuitive way such as Rosetta Stone instead of wasting my time taking a language course when I could be taking an academic course instead. </p>
<p>In the end, I guess it doesn’t really matter that much because I can still take all the same classes with a minor, but I kinda wanted to do the honors program and also write an honors thesis (I realize that these are two separate things).</p>
<p>Kind of a shame that you are going to let a language get in your way of doing that.</p>
<p>Obviously I would do more research about (i.e. how the Language classes are curved,etc.), but honestly I don’t really think it’s that big of deal at all. The main reason I want to do the honors program, is because I wanted to stay in honors housing and meet some interesting people there. Since the Ross program doesn’t start until the second year, I’ll still have one year to do that, enough time to get to know some people. And thanks to UROP, I can still do undergraduate research, which is what’s important. Most of the jobs I’m looking into after college don’t particularly care whether you have an honors thesis, </p>
<p>If in UROP, I suddenly find that I love doing research in my subject, I’ll just not attend Ross and tough it out and attend the language courses. But if I do end up attending Ross, I really don’t see how not doing an honors thesis is going to affect me in any way negatively. However, I do know that taking language classes is going negatively impact my GPA…a lot. </p>
<p>The point is that there is no rational reason for me getting a dual degree. Either way, I can still take the same classes. The benefits having both a BBA and BS/AB are negligible. If I want to work in industry I’ll get a BBA. If I want to work in academia I’ll get the AB/BS. After the first year, I’m sure I’ll a better idea of what I would want to later in my life.</p>
<p>so you’re saying that it’s possible to get an LSA/Ross dual degree if one takes the foreign language courses?</p>
<p>None of the classes I have taken at Michigan, including foreign language, have been curved at all. So there’s that for you. If you really don’t mind all that much then it isn’t really a shame, but in your earlier post you sounded pretty upset! I have disabilities that make the foreign language classes almost impossible for me and I had to take about eight semesters but I did manage to pass them and get them over with. For someone that made it to Spanish 3 in high school to act like it’s too challenging and not go for something he wanted because of it, to me that just seemed really sad-- not pathetic sad, trust me I am sympathetic, just… sad. But if you didn’t really want the LSA program that much then I guess not. You just sounded disappointed.</p>
<p>rharan, among other requirements in addition to language, yes you can do an LSA/Ross dual degree.</p>
<p>alright thanks, my biggest concern was whether I would be able to do it & still graduate in 4 years.</p>