I apologize if this has been asked before, but I couldn’t find the answer here after searching. Are the LSAT mid-50% stats for last year’s class same/lower than the University’s average? Thanks in advance.
Pretty much the same.
Ugh, ok I had my hopes up that it was lower than engineering/cs. Thanks @Alexandre
LSA admission stat should still be lower than CoE.
Not really billcsho. LSA expects stronger language/reading skills and preparation while the CoE expects much stronger Mathematics/Science skills and preparation. They just emphasize different competencies.
They do have different empgaisis, but the admission rate and composite scores still show a tougher competition in CoE. The admission median ACT was 33 last year in CoE.
billcsho, the median for admitted students was 33…not for enrolled students. That is still impressive mind you. The median for admitted students into LSA was 32. There is no difference between 32 and 33 to start with, but in the case of LSA vs CoE, you can be sure that LSA students have a higher median score in Reading while CoE students will have a higher median score in Mathematics.
Like I said, the emphasis is different. LSA students will typically have significantly outperformed CoE in the Humanities while CoE students will be significantly stronger in the STEM subjects. The over cumulative GPA average, SAT/ACT ranges and acceptance rates for LSA and the CoE are similar, but their profiles vary wildly. Take two applicants:
Applicant 1:
3.8 unweighted GPA
APs in AP Calculus BC, Physics C and Chemistry, but no APs in English or History
SAT M 750, SAT English 630
Good ECs
This applicant probably stands a better chance of getting into the CoE than into LSA
Applicant 2:
3.8 unweighted GPA
APs in English Lang and Lit, History and Econ, but no APs in Calculus or Science
SAT M 670, SAT English 710
Good ECs
This applicant obviously stands a better chance of getting into LSA than into the CoE
Of course, their essays explaining their academic interests and reasons for wanting to attend the specific school they applied to will matter immensely, but I have not seen any evidence that would suggest that the CoE is uniformly more selective than LSA.
I guess we have a different definition of “lower” and “no difference”. 
Have any of you heard about the new LSA? New building, trying to give these kids the same experience as those in the other colleges?
Some alums gave me some info on it.
Here are some mid 50 numbers I found from 2015 enrolled freshmen:
UMich (as a whole but mostly by LSA):
SAT reading: 630-730
SAT Math: 660-770
ACT composite: 29-33
CoE:
SAT reading: 640-740
SAT Math: 720-795 (right between 790 and 800)
ACT composite: 31-34
billcsho, the CoE stats you list above are for students admitted, not students enrolled. Michigan does not break the data down by college and the unofficial data provided by the CoE is for students admitted. The only official figure provided by the University is for the entire freshman class, and that’s published in the common data set.
@Alexandre No. The numbers I cited are for enrolled freshmen. I have posted that site for engineering schools student profiles a couple years ago. I can post it again tomorrow. They have the data for many years for many engineering schools. They do have the student profiles for individual schools like Ross and CoE. You just need to dig them out. CDS is not the only source from the university. They also report these data to some organizations like ASEE.
Unfortunately billcsho, I do not trust them. Too often universities list enrolled SAT/ACT ranges only for them to actually be reporting the ranges of admitted. Since then, I have only relied on the CDS. You can tell from my track record, if it is not an audited document, I do not believe it!
Besides, I have known way too many cases to believe that the CoE has the same Reading SAT range as LSA. It is not even close from the dozens of cases I have seen. From Dubai anyway, it is unheard of that a student with a sub 650 on the CR section got into LSA. Engineering applicants with 600-640 on the CR get in routinely. Of course, they have SAT scores in the 770-800 range.
Not that it matters, I stand by my initial statement. LSA and the CoE are equally selective. The main difference between the two is that the CoE insists on students who are excellent in Mathematics and Science, while LSA is more forgiving of applicants who are not as quantitatively inclined.
It is up to you whether to trust them or not. The data are provided by CoE and it matched the numbers I found a couple years ago at the CoE admission information session a few years ago. Other enigneering schools’ data are also available and matched corresponding official data. CDS’s data is very limited. UMich’s Almanac has even more information. Anyway, it is better than speculations.
http://profiles.asee.org/profiles/6915/screen/19?school_name=University+of+Michigan
I found this site in the engineering major subforum of CC several years ago. It is a trusted source for admission data of various engineering schools.
By the way, UMich does have the break down data for each school on their website, but they only show the admission medians instead of mid 50. But even with that, one can see the difference (big or small is up to your judgement though).
Just verified that their data was furnished by institutions that responded to ASEE’s annual survey.
@HRSMom – Can you please provide any more info re the new LSA building that you mentioned above?