<p>How competitive do you think getting into Berekely as a Pre-bus (undeclared) major as opposed to an impacted engineering major such as bioengineering or EECS? I saw on the Haas site that only about half of the people who apply to the business school get in. I was wondering which way is better, easier, better future job? I'm conflicted both ways. </p>
<p>Anyone have any ideas, answers?
Thanks</p>
<p>It is much easier to get into Berkeley as an undeclared major than engineering. Once you are in Berkeley, it is very competitive to get into the Haas undergraduate business school. </p>
<p>Just to be clear, if you want to major in engineering, the normal way is to apply and be admitted into engineering as a freshman. It's very competitive. You can also enter undeclared, do extermely well in math/science courses and transfer to engineering, but that is difficult to do.</p>
<p>If you want to major in business, you enter undeclared, try to get extremely high grades and get accepted into the undergraduate business major. But it's super-competitive.</p>
<p>Both paths seem hard. Is it easier to go undeclared business or undeclared engineering for starters.
My original plan was to go bioengineering but I realized EVERYONE else is doing that and its going to be impacted/competitive as hell. Then i did some research on business and noticed it was no different. -_-</p>
<p>When you say undeclared major, do you mean undeclared engineering?</p>
<p>No, I mean L&S undeclared. Applying to the College of Engineering as undeclared is super competitive.</p>
<p>If you want to study engineering, you're better off applying for engineering to begin with to the specialty you want. It's very hard to transfer into engineering once you are at Cal. However, if your grades/SAT/etc. are borderline, and you think you won't get into engineering, then apply to L&S undeclared. If you want business, then apply L&S undeclared, but realize you may not make it into business.</p>
<p>There have been a bunch of threads on this, I would go back and read through the discussions.</p>
<p>How do you feel about undeclared letters and sciences? My friend applied under this "major" and he transfered to computer science. (unimpacted, not eecs) It seemed a smooth transition but then again he did get a 2300. -_-'</p>
<p>Undeclared Letters & Science is the easiest thing to get in as (except perhaps College of Natural Reseources), and the VAST majority of people enter that way. If you are interested in majoring in Computer Science, that is the correct thing to apply for. Engineering EECS is a separate thing that combines electrical engineering and computer science, for which you apply now. Computer Science is a regular major, you just enter undeclared, take the prerequisites, and then enter the CS major. It's not even impacted now, as far as I know.</p>
<p>To reiterate, the "normal" way to apply to UC Berkeley is as an undeclared into the college of Letters & Science. Even if there is a place on your application for intended major, you still enter undeclared. It is difference for the College of Engineering, where you have to pick your speciality when you apply, or pick Undeclared Engineering, which is one of the hardest things to be accepted into.</p>
<p>I heard my dad, who works for AMD, do not hire any B.A's. (Undeclared-L/S)Might be biased but I don't want to risk jeaparding my future. >_<</p>
<p>So you were saying that engineering undeclared is very hard to get into? (or competitive)</p>
<p>They say that Engineering Undeclared is one of the hardest (hardest?) types of engineering to get into.</p>
<p>The easiest college to get into is College of Natural Resourses.</p>
<p>CAL BioE is a farce? ?can anyone verify? no?? yes?? gahhh</p>
<p>L&S does not admit by major, so you chances of getting should be slightly higher than if you applied to COE. You only apply to Haas in your sophomore year - you enter as undeclared or in another major as a freshman. Technically, everyone admitted to L&S are undeclared (ie intended major) as you do not declare your major until the end of your second year. The box on the app is mainly for statistical puroses.</p>
<p>BioE is not necessarily a farce, but you should not choose it just for employment as an engineer straight out of undergrad because it is too weak in engineering content/specialization. You have to be really interested in it. Or you couple double it with something else.</p>