<p>Actually, colleges sometimes do check. Not necessarily your ECs, but your background definitely counts. Ever heard of Blair Hornstine or Gina Grant?</p>
<p>well i definitely don't think its alrite to cheat... period. so that doesn't make me a hypocrite. and i honestly hope you're not serious about this lying business.</p>
<p>oh btw, has anybody ever heard of a student who lied about their hours so bad that it was absolutely impossible? It would be funny for an adcom to pick up an application and have it say average 10 hours a day on EC.</p>
<p>oh and if you really wanted to fill up your blanks. why not try this...
TV watching stimulation experiment (#) hours a day 52 weeks a year</p>
<p>that way, its not really lying since you really do watch that number of hours a week.</p>
<p>'We' do not all think that cheating is right. Furthermore, if you are getting your sense of morality solely from the internet (i.e. message boards like CC), look elsewhere.</p>
<p>if colleges interview you and the info you give don't match up or they introduce you to an alumni who is an eagle scout, you end up embarrasing yourself. don't do it, be yourself and get in based on your own merits.</p>
<p>unpolloloco, read this entire thread</p>
<p>from reading the entire thread, there are quite a few CCers that think cheating is ok</p>
<p>Here's my advice on lying on the application. Don't do it. The best example I have is some kid from my cousin's school a couple of years ago. He said he created a club and another girl applying to the same school wrote the same thing. Standford noticed that two people claimed to have started the same club. They looked into it and realized the guy was lying. So they called all the other schools he was applying to and told them about it. And guess what, every school rejected him except one which was a state school.</p>
<p>Shame on the state school for taking a lying student.</p>
<p>oh jibber, "some" does not constitute for all. there are "some" people who are serial killers. that doesn't mean "all" of us are serial killers. Oh and please don't read articles on serial killers, i can't imagine the crazy ideas you get.</p>
<p>smytty is so right.</p>
<p>So "Jibber" is your first name, and "lol" is your last name? :)</p>
<p>I think I'll try the TV watching stimulation experiment on my ED application ;)
Maybe they think it's funny and I'll be accepted....</p>
<p>jibberlol,</p>
<p>Colleges will check if the EC doesn't seem to match recommenders' or interviewers' descriptions of the students.</p>
<p>On another thread, you describe yourself as shy and antisocial, a person who barely speaks in class. That doesn't sound like a person who'd be an Eagle Scout.</p>
<p>Eagle Scout? That's not cool at all. I'm an Eagle Scout myself. It took me 5 years of working hard at Scouting to get to my Eagle project, which took hundreds of hours to prepare, execute, and prepare a report for the Eagle Board of Review. Eagle Scout is a helluva lot of work, and I think anybody who was ever an Eagle Scout will really have some serious respect issues with you if you make that up. Its just not cool, and not fair for people like me who worked hard at it.</p>
<p>Becoming an Eagle Scout takes years of dedication to scouting- merit badge requirements, advancing in rank, doing a service project.</p>
<p>Eagle Scout is NOT an award, Eagle Scout is a RANK. The Eagle Scout "Award" is an award you get for achieving the Eagle Scout RANK. It is a rank primarily, and an award a distant second.</p>
<p>Scouts are no slouches with records either. There are districts. If they ask for your troop number and that troop has no idea who you are, you're screwed.</p>
<p>Make up whatever you want, but for the love of God, not Eagle Scout</p>
<p>Also, you're screwed in an interview if they ask you about that.</p>
<p>RECORDS. Scouting Districts keep RECORDS. I've seen people put blood, sweat, and tears into becoming Eagle Scouts. If you lie about that, then I hope you get caught.</p>
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<p>Go ahead a lie, if you must. I know that a bunch of strangers on a forum won't convince you otherwise.</p>
<p>Just remember, if one person lies, it's highly probably that another, and yet another, and a whole bunch of people will lie. Where's the advantage to that?</p>
<p>doarkface---you dont know what your talking about...go flush urself down a toilet.</p>
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On another thread, you describe yourself as shy and antisocial, a person who barely speaks in class. That doesn't sound like a person who'd be an Eagle Scout.
not all eagle scouts are big, post-pubescents, and tall and talkative... Jeez stop being stereotypical</p>
<p>I'm not being stereotypical. An eagle scout needs to have leadership skills and to also get along with people. Folks who are antisocial aren't likely to stick with scouting, which requires lots of group activities.</p>
<p>I know Eagle Scouts, and they are really nice people who are not like this: " big, post-pubescents, and tall and talkative." They are simply young men who are service oriented, reliable, hard working and honest. Thus far, your posts do not indicate that such adjectives describe you.</p>
<p>Jibberlol you're missing the point
Taking Eagle Scout as just one example, don't you see how Iloveschool could answer an interview question about scouting in a way that would convey his passion and knowledge? Do you think you could answer in the same way?</p>
<p>An interviewer would not even have to know anything about scouting - the interviewer would only have needed to speak with one other real scout like Iloveschool to make a comparison. This goes for any ec, not just scouting.</p>
<p>wow, here I am worried that adcoms might call my school and maybe find that my hours are off by 5hours(hours are hard to be precise especially when its been so long, and i give myself the benefit of the doubt). and here you are, trying to lie about a life time dedication.</p>