I can’t imagine what the surviving daughters are going through. I hope they have a supportive extended family.
It’s harrowing enough that their entire family was murdered, but to learn their little brother was tortured.
This reminds me of something my H was suggesting a year ago when kid was going off to a sleepover camp. He said we really ought to establish some kind of emergency mayday code word. (It came up after we were watching some kidnapping movie, I think)
Airline pilots have a code word to signify the plane has been hijacked.
The military has ‘distress’ words to use on the radio.
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Police believe all were tortured then doused with gasoline and set alight
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Absolutely horrific.
Learned this morning that a relative of the suspect was fired from the Iron Works place at some point. Also that the suspect was caught with a machete near the Iron Works building some time ago. I wonder if the latter incident was connected with the former, and – having been frustrated in that attempt – he (if it’s he) ramped it up several levels.
The entire thing is so horrifying and savage. And this may sound weird, but in the last 2 days my dominant thought was actually: All this for a mere $40K? That’s putting a value of only $10,000 on each of those 4 victims. That adds obscenity to horror.
We also need to keep in mind that although the suspect’s DNA was found, we still don’t know how many were responsible for the activities inside the mansion. For example, if any of the household were being kept separate from each other, how were they being watched, unless they were all immediately chained? Big house, 4 people. It would make me think at least one other criminal was inside.
Maybe he asked for more, and the father told him that’s all he could come up with in cash on short notice, and that’s why they were tortured? Because the suspect didn’t believe it? (Not understanding that even rich people can’t necessarily come up with enormous sums in cash immediately, unlike in the movies.)
A good bet that the bunch of them that were caught fleeing were involved in the crime in some way.
DonnaL that might be why they were tortured. Stupid stupid evil criminals.
His mugshot…his eyes. He looks like what is described as someone looks who was born with fetal alcohol syndrome.
His own relative described him as being angry and arrogant.
Oh, but @VABluebird, did you not know that his previous lawyer has announced to the world on CNN that they’re holding the wrong guy? That he’s sweet, nice, kind, etc.? He’s “definitely not capable of that”? (blah/blah, the usual)
He came from Guyana in 2000. He then committed a long list of offenses including threatening to kill a girlfriend and her child, destruction of property, and a host of others. Why wasn’t he deported long ago?
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I know a very wealthy woman who was taken hostage in her home. She was taken to an ATM where she showed the guy that she only had XXXXX dollars that she could immediately get her hands on. Then he had her go into the bank and withdraw the money.
Luckily, she was able to talk him into dropping her off at our church. It was horrifying, but she survived. He had followed her Mercedes and just assumed that she’d have a bunch of cash in her home, which she didn’t. Then the bank stuff followed.
These type of criminals don’t realize that people don’t just have a million bucks sitting in a savings acct that can just be withdrawn.
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Maybe he asked for more, and the father told him that’s all he could come up with in cash on short notice, and that’s why they were tortured? Because the suspect didn’t believe it? (Not understanding that even rich people can’t necessarily come up with enormous sums in cash immediately, unlike in the movies.)
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Yes, that makes sense. And, the criminals probably didn’t believe that they didn’t have a huge chunk of cash in a home safe.
Well, I think my additional, but unspoken, point was the relationship between risk and reward. Had he “merely” kidnapped, demanded, and received the $40K (which he probably could have done without torturing a single person), but not murdered anyone, he would have received a long prison sentence but surely shorter than what he will get now, if convicted. For a mere 40K. How stupid.
^^^I don’t think such criminals think about getting caught! Just like I think the death penalty is not a deterrent. I just don’t think the consequences are on their minds when they commit these horrific crimes.
They truly think they’re going to get away with it. They killed the witnesses. They didn’t think about DNA on a pizza…
They obviously don’t watch much TV. All you have to do is watch Cold Case Files or Forensic Files to understand how thorough modern forensics are and how law enforcement can catch you with (literally) a leaf or a single fiber.
Further, for me it’s really beyond all that (about the effort not to be caught). You have to be truly pathologically detached from humanity — or OTOH to have a deep hatred for humanity – to engage in the TYPE of murder and torture that was done. Other criminals are more merciful when covering up crimes: They use guns. Single accurate shot (or few of them). Far less prolonged agony. THEN the place gets torched.
I told you there was more than one criminal involved. That’s now been revealed in court documents. That included at the very least the cash drop, but I’m sure it will be found that there was complicity inside the mansion as well.
I maintain that this should be classified – among all the other eventual classifications – as a hate crime. This is pure hatred and evil.
Those poor surviving daughters. I can’t imagine the permanent trauma they will suffer.
I suspected that there was more than one person because it’s more difficult for 1 person to get control of 4.
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good question