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<p>Hey I want at least two more target schools since I have enough reach and safety schools. I'm looking to stay in the northeast and midwest. </p>

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<p>GPA:
-Weighted: 4.2
-Unweighted: 3.4</p>

<p>SAT scores:
-Math: 740, might be 800 after October scores come out
-Writing: 580
-Reading: 590
Those might be higher after October scores come out.</p>

<p>Extracurricular:
-Robotics: 2 years
-Math Team: 4 years
-Classics/Latin Club: held an officer position all four years and I'm club president this year and was last year
-Key Club: 4 years
-Played Guitar: 4 years
-Indoor and Outdoor Track: 4 years
-Martial Arts: Since I was a kid
I might've done some more, but these are the only ones I found worth mentioning.</p>

<p>Honors:
-AP Scholar
-Science National Honor Society
-Mu Alpha Theta</p>

<p>AP Classes:
-Biology: Sophomore
-Physics B: Junior
-Language and Composition: Junior
-Psychology: Junior
-Physics C: Senior
-Calculus B/C
-Literature and Composition: Senior
-Latin: Senior</p>

<p>All of my classes have been honors except for electives since most of my school's electives don't have an honors class.</p>

<p>I plan to major in Aeronautical Engineering or Biomedical Engineering. I'm applying to UMich Ann Arbor, Purdue, MIT, Cornell, UConn, UT Austin, Penn State, and University at Buffalo. I know that some of these will be real tough, but I'm still applying. If you need more info let me know. Thanks in advance :)</p>

<p>What is your home state? What can your family afford? For instance, UMich and Penn State will cost on OOS student $55K+/year. Purdue is around $48K OOS. UT Austin admission is driven by class rank.</p>

<p>I’m from Connecticut and with help from loans, scholarships and grants I think we can afford around $40k/year. I’m gonna get a job in college to help out too, I would get one now but I don’t have a ride to work.</p>

<p>$40,000 isn’t enough for UMich, UT Austin, Purdue, and PSU regardless, so take them off your list (not to mention that you wouldn’t get scholarships as an OOS student). You may want to replace them with schools such as WPI, RIT, Rose Hulman, Gettysburg, Union, etc. since these are private and may have scholarships for out of state students.
MIT is out of reach based on what you wrote above.
UConn is a safety.
You need one more safety and 2-3 more matches.</p>

<p>I’m pretty sure 40k is enough, since Purude tuition and room and board is about $42k, Penn State is $45k, UT Austin and UMich are $50k, and I said with scholarships, loans and grants, so those would probably bring the cost down by $5,000 to $10,000. I’m not sure why you’re saying I won’t get a scholarship since I know for a fact that Purdue offers 2 scholarships for OOS students one is around $12,000 to $16,000 and the other is $5,000 to $10,000. I haven’t really looked into the other schools as much so I don’t really know about them, so you might be right about those other schools. The schools you suggested I have looked into them and from what friends and teachers have told me I feel as though I wouldn’t like those schools. I appreciate the advice, but I’m probably not gonna take it since from what my counselors and teachers have been telling me I seem to have a good number of safeties and reaches and I’m just looking for one or two more targets.</p>

<p>I figure that my targets are Purdue, UT Austin and maybe UMich, although from what it seems on the graphs on Naviance I’m gonna get into Purdue and UT Austin, UMich is either a target or a reach, probably somewhere in between. I’m applying to MIT since my mom really wants me to and has always wanted me to, I kinda wanna apply too, but I know I won’t get in and even if I do I know that it’ll be really hard.
Also I know that UMich is really expensive and I probably won’t go there since I don’t want to put that stress on my mom, but I really want to apply to these schools, because even if I don’t go or if I can’t afford them I just want to know that I at least tried to get in.</p>

<p>Sorry if I seem to be cocky or an idiot, I’m not trying to be.</p>

<p>Some target suggestions: University of Wisconsin-Madison, University of Rochester, Boston University, University of Maryland, George Washington University – all have great Biomedical Engineering programs, but based on your information they all could be tangible matches.</p>

<p>Based on what you said, you don’t have $40,000, right? If you have that amount yes it’s enough so disregard what I said. But it $40,000 is, as you said in #3 what you <em>plan to have</em> through family contribution, loans, grants, and scholarships, it’s not enough, because the scholarships aren’t guaranteed at all.
Same thing for the Trustees at Purdue: right now your GPA/SAT scores aren’t competitive but let us imagine that you get it.
COA is about $43,000 OOS. - the highest level Trustees ($16,000) = 27,000. - Loans ($5,500 maximum freshman year) = 21,500. - work study (2,000 typically) = 19,500.
If you really want to apply, do, especially if you think you have a chance, but does your mother have that amount of money?
And now, keep in mind that this is the best you could have, you could get a $5,000 scholarship instead of the $16,000, raising the price to over $30,000. If you HAVE that money (not counting on loans and grants etc) then it’s fine. If not, you need to diversify your list.
Right now, SUNY Buffalo is your only academic+financial match.
I second exploring URochester, GWU, and BU.
It’s not about being cocky, it’s expecting that because you’re smart the money will sort itself out. For cash-starved/defunded public universities, it won’t. Since you’ve got good academic stats, look into private schools that may provide you with enough scholarships. Explore a variety of in-state public or out of state private options.
Applying to a few schools just to know that at least you tried is fine. You can apply to a few like that, no problem. But to apply only to financial reaches is madness, unless you’re fine getting your parents into debt or going to UConn. You need to hedge your bets with 2 solid choices that you know you can afford, that you’d like to attend, and that you’re sure you can get into, plus a few matches (schools that are better academically than the safeties and affordable financially). I totally understand that Rose Hulman might not be for you (although it’s #1 for undergrad engineering education, it’s also very isolated), but look at a variety of Tech Schools that are affordable. Run Net Price Calculators. Talk with your mother to see how much she can afford and don’t accept “whatever it costs”, you need solid numbers. Many parents don’t realize how much their EFC is, until it’s too late, for example. And then their kids are stuck in an untenable position, admitted to schools they can’t afford.
Many schools on your list are academic matches but they’re not affordable matches. Don’t be among the kids who cry here on CC come March or April because they didn’t make a proper college list. Just look at the “Chances” thread and the kids’ responses: how many take net cost into consideration? Then compare those with the adults’ responses -many of whom are involved in this business in one way or another, and know what they’re talking about.
Getting in is only half the job, paying for it is another one.
But don’t take my word for it. Use College Abacus <a href=“https://collegeabacus.com/[/url]”>https://collegeabacus.com/&lt;/a&gt;
and compare costs between various schools.
You can also check out the blog of a financial specialist who focuses on colleges, [The</a> College Solution |](<a href=“http://www.thecollegesolution.com/]The”>http://www.thecollegesolution.com/)</p>

<p>Your unweighted grades and SAT scores indicate that most of these schools are reaches and merit money will not be a sure thing. Best to find a couple of real safeties and schools that you can afford. Why not devote much of that precious application time to schools that you can realistically attend?</p>

<p>Thanks so much for all of the info, I’ll keep the schools I have, but I’ll be sure to add some more affordable schools or schools that would offer me large scholarships. Do you think Virginia Tech would be a good place to apply? Also in order to help pay do you think its okay to sell my blood or work 2 jobs?</p>

<p>VTech costs $35K for OOS students (not including books, etc). <a href=“http://www.admiss.vt.edu/cost/[/url]”>http://www.admiss.vt.edu/cost/&lt;/a&gt;
Do the same analysis MYOS performed for you in post #7. See if it works.</p>

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I hope you’re kidding…</p>

<p>Yeah kinda, but I am going to need a way to get money, I know that the FAFSA depends on your family income and financial situation, but how much money is it possible to get from that?</p>

<p>FAFSA doesn’t give money. FAFSA is a means test for federal aid. After filing your FAFSA documentation you can borrow $5.5K as a freshman. If you are very low income you might also qualify for a Pell Grant of <$6K. That’s it. The vast majority of grant $ come from the colleges themselves. Is UConn your safety? Can your family afford it? Would you be happy there?</p>

<p>Most of the money you’ll get will come from the college to which you apply. That’s why you have to choose strategically. If you are admitted to a college that does not meet need, you’ll be left to your own devices to figure out how to attend, or, another way to put it, it’s an “admit-deny” since you can’t attend without money. Some colleges don’t provide any need based financial aid, especially public universities, to out of state students. Some public universities (like Ole Miss, University of Alabama, etc) have generous scholarships based on merit only. These typically require breaking 32 on the ACT or 1400 on the SAT. Other, less difficult to attain scholarships exist, listed in the “financial aid” forum on this site. Some are even automatic, while most require a competition.
Since your first source of aid (need-based or merit-based) is the college, you have to choose carefully.
Typically, if your stats are in the top 25% of applicants you have good odds of getting in with financial aid (outside of OOS publics). If your stats are in the top 25% of a private college located 400+miles away from home, your odds increase significantly.</p>

<p>At these schools, you won’t have more than $5,500 in loans, outside of your EFC the rest will be grants, scholarships, and work study.
[100%</a> Meet Need Colleges | CollegeGreenlight](<a href=“Colleges with Need-Blind Admission for U.S. Students”>Colleges with Need-Blind Admission for U.S. Students)
Use CollegeAbacus to compare how much schools you cost you:
<a href=“https://collegeabacus.com/[/url]”>https://collegeabacus.com/&lt;/a&gt;
To understand EFC, read this also:
[Do</a> You Know What Your Expected Family Contribution Is? | The College Solution](<a href=“http://www.thecollegesolution.com/do-you-know-what-your-expected-family-contribution-is/]Do”>Do You Know What Your Expected Family Contribution Is?)
A great post: finding “generous” colleges
[Finding</a> the Most Generous Colleges | The College Solution](<a href=“http://www.thecollegesolution.com/finding-the-most-generous-colleges/]Finding”>Finding the Most Generous Colleges)</p>

<p>In reply to Erin’s Dad:
UConn is a safety and we can definitely afford it, but I’m not sure I would be happy there. For starters they don’t offer aeronautical engineering as a major and a lot of people I know go there, don’t get me wrong I like my friends a lot and going to school with them would be fun, but I’m tired of the same old scenes here I want to go out and meet new people. Yes I know I would still meet new people at UConn, but still</p>

<p>Thanks for all of this info guys this has really opened my eyes, and I’m glad I learned about this now rather than later when it would be too late. I’ll be sure to use the sites posted. I added RPI and VTech to my list and have the applications filled out, do you think these are good decisions? I saw that RPI is expensive, but gives good financial aid</p>

<p>Have you run the Net Price Calculators on each site? (You need to do that at each college because many have their own “institutional” system so what one school thinks you should pay is totally different from what another thinks).
Do that for RPI, RIT, WPI, Colorado School of Mines, New Mexico School of Mines, etc.
(BTW, VTech is also public, not sure whether you’d get better financial aid there)
Go to the ABET page, check “aeronautical engineering” then “search” and you’ll have the whole list. Among those, pick all the private schools, then add a couple public in-state or where tuition is within reach for you.
Is Aeronautical Engineering offered in CT? If not, is it part of “Tuition Break” for an exchange with another New England State (you pay close to in- state tuition)?</p>

<p>What did you get on October SATs?</p>

<p>Many people who work in the aeronautical field have Mech E degrees rather than aero degrees.</p>