<p>Hey guys,
So Im currently working on putting my preliminary schedule together, and got stuck when it came to the math part. I'm not a math person, and did not do to swell in high school, but there is no way that I can go a semester without math because then the math part of my brain will completely shut down, never to be turned on again. (just a fun fact lol)</p>
<p>I was looking at the course descriptions up on the Math Department's page, and I see that there is Math 1212 - Applied Calculus with Algebra (4 credits) and there is Math 1210 - Applied Calculus (3 credits). </p>
<p>When I looked them up on Lou's List I only found 1210, no 1212. Could this mean that it is not offered, or is it just not updated on Lou's List? Also is the description for 1212, the prerequisite is no prior exposure to calculus, but it does not say for that for 1210. Now maybe Im just being naive, but should I just assume that its the same for 1210? (And once again referencing that naive statement) 1212 is presumably harder than 1210, right? Seeing as to how it is worth an extra credit?</p>
<p>I got an A in Pre-Calc but never took on AP Calc, but went down the horrible road of AP Stats instead, so Im hoping that neither of these courses will burn me alive!</p>
<p>You need to state your intended major. Some upper level Chemistry and Physics require the 1310 series math as a prereq. If you are not majoring in math or science you are prob fine taking the 1210 applied calc. Can’t comment on the 1212 class. Not all courses are offered each semester.</p>
<p>If you have never had calculus then make sure you get the right TA that teaches these sections. Look them up on thecourseforum.com some of them are not as good as others and that is stating it nicely. </p>
<p>If you do not see a section for a particular course that means it is not offered for that semester.</p>
<p>aku, 1210-1212 is a terminal applied calculus sequence designed for economics majors and such who need to know some calculus but don’t love math or plan to be going on in it. From your self-description, that sounds like you. If you might end up majoring in a math-y science, or you want to take higher-level math classes, then you should take the 13–series; but it will be considerably more challenging.</p>
<p>There’s also APMA calculus over in the Engineering School, which is more applications-oriented and less proof-oriented than the Arts and Sciences sequence. My S took 2nd semester APMA calculus as a high school student and thought the teacher (Mary Beck) was superb. He also found it a lot more demanding than his hs AP calculus class.</p>
<p>1212 isn’t on Lou’s list because it isn’t offered in the fall semester. It will come around in the spring. It follows from 1210, so don’t just jump into it unless you’ve taken calculus AB in hs.</p>
<p>A word to the wise: just a few years ago, when UVA changed to SIS, all its 3-digit course numbers changed to 4-digit numbers. But lot of the departmental webpages, pages of advice to undergrads, etc., haven’t been updated and many faculty still refer to the courses by their old numbers. Generally if you drop the last digit of a class that interests you, you will have the approximate old number. If you google “MATH 121-122 UVA” you will get the Math Department’s description of its various entry-level options. Note that there are also some non-calculus classes, and also elementary statistics, which might be more useful than calculus if you are thinking about majoring in the social sciences.</p>
<p>@jingle thank you so much for that info! As of right now, as I have not been exposed to anything, I am looking to enter either the Comm School or the E School, study Pre-Pharmacy,or go into Health Care aadmin (which is kinda pre-comm) So my life is in tangles</p>
<p>And with the whole Spring/Fall semester avaliability thing, taking one in Fall and the other in Spring would not benefit me, right?Because I cant get credit for both?</p>
<p>If you just take 1210, it should meet your needs for most non-technical majors. I would then take stats 2010 in the second semester, as opposed to taking more calc. From what I have seen, a number of non-technical programs and later courses want you to have one semester of calc, but they don’t require any more than that.</p>
<p>Sorry, I meant Math 1220 for the spring semester if you want to keep studying calculus.</p>
<p>The math website says you can’t get credit for both 1210 and 1310. Therefore, if a person is seriously considering a major that will need the more difficult calculus sequence, they should take it to start with.</p>
<p>Math 1210 is listed as a prereq for stat 2010, which many students take.</p>
<p>Someone asked about thecourseforum. You typically will not find TAs on there. I’ve been told most of the intro calc classes are taught by TAs.</p>
<p>As far as e-school you need to know going in if you may want to pursue that route. That makes a difference in making sure you are on track with their curriculum. Other individuals know more than I do regarding this option.</p>
<p>Akuj: 1000 level classes in each dept. are the intro classes that are generally aimed towards first years. 2000 levels are a little more specialized, but also may be appropriate for 1st years, depending upon the dept. For example, few people are able to handle 2000 in chemistry as a 1st year 1st semester, but they could start 2000 in history. 3000 levels in most cases are not suitable for first years, unless you are really strong in that discipline and/or have some APs in it. 3000s are more likely to have a prerequisite, or to have students that have all taken lower level classes in that dept. and to have a higher percentage of people majoring in that subject. Typically, the higher the course number, the smaller the class, so some people like to jump ahead for that reason. </p>
<p>Of course, it varies greatly from dept. to dept. about the difficulty of taking a higher level class as a first year.</p>
(which is kinda pre-comm) So my life is in tangles</p>